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Re: Myostatin gene
« Reply #75 on: July 27, 2019, 12:09:57 PM »
If the myostatin gene carriers are significantly better carcasses.......is there potential for a branded beef line? If genetic tests get cheaper....you would have a way to dna select a superior tasting beef product.


if better means devoid of marbling but tender, then you are going to have to compete with the pied branding.

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« Reply #76 on: July 27, 2019, 12:17:46 PM »
No marbling=No flavour!

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Re: Myostatin gene
« Reply #77 on: July 27, 2019, 08:14:27 PM »
One thing about it.......with dna testing.....there is no way hold your mouth just right....and no place to hide.
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« Reply #78 on: July 28, 2019, 07:44:14 AM »
Since this is a wide spread thingy........and pretty complicated.......seems like the small breeds should defer the situation to a national data base. Let Steffen in Nebraska or whoever......the breed improvement association. It would be more coordinated.
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Re: Myostatin gene
« Reply #79 on: July 28, 2019, 09:34:03 AM »
Whats complicated.

Pretty simple.

If you want to know, just test.


I have a direct dabla cow.  Hes a carrier.  She tested clean.


Pretty simple.
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Re: Myostatin gene
« Reply #80 on: July 28, 2019, 10:19:52 AM »
One thing about it.......with dna testing.....there is no way hold your mouth just right....and no place to hide.

DNA and modern communication have definitely changed things. With a few clicks of the mouse you can stumble into discovering both F94L & nt419 are still moving around just as E2226x has been.

We'll all watch real panic set in if/when they figure out how to accurately age an animal with it.

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« Reply #81 on: July 28, 2019, 11:49:47 AM »
What is complicated to me is that there are 7 variants? Which ones are the Shorthorn people supposed to be on the look out for?
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Re: Myostatin gene
« Reply #82 on: July 28, 2019, 12:05:46 PM »
Whats complicated.

Pretty simple.

If you want to know, just test.


I have a direct dabla cow.  Hes a carrier.  She tested clean. /// Thats it O0


Pretty simple.

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« Reply #83 on: July 28, 2019, 12:18:12 PM »
So is this right? You take a tissue from an ear by a allflex applicator. You put it in a tube a long with a form and a form card card. You send it to ASA. You can test.....say a yearling bull with the th,pha, ds package for 48 dollars plus an add on myostatin test for an additional 27 dollars. So my questions.....do you mail or ups the sample? Is the allflex applicator the same kind as you use for tagging or is it diifferent. If you check the myostatin box do they test for E226 or the whold damn bunch of variants? So basically for me to test a yearling bull it would be 75 bucks. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Myostatin gene
« Reply #84 on: July 28, 2019, 02:42:43 PM »
i can't believe how hard it is to google information on myostatin from testing labs.

used to be pretty easy

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« Reply #85 on: July 28, 2019, 02:50:59 PM »
If you check the myostatin box do they test for E226 or the whold damn bunch of variants?


every time i have done it, they tested for all 9 variants


not sure why the information is so hard to find now.


not a good customer relations outreach

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« Reply #86 on: July 28, 2019, 03:36:12 PM »
So is this right? You take a tissue from an ear by a allflex applicator. You put it in a tube a long with a form and a form card card. You send it to ASA. You can test.....say a yearling bull with the th,pha, ds package for 48 dollars plus an add on myostatin test for an additional 27 dollars. So my questions.....do you mail or ups the sample? Is the allflex applicator the same kind as you use for tagging or is it diifferent. If you check the myostatin box do they test for E226 or the whold damn bunch of variants? So basically for me to test a yearling bull it would be 75 bucks. Thanks in advance.

I just use blood cards and mail it to the ASA. My form shows your $75 to be right, which is too damn high but I suppose the ASA doesn't have the bargaining power the AAA has. I was under the impression they tested for all 9 variants, but the results you get from the ASA aren't exactly clear and you only ever see results show up for E2226x, F94L & nt419 in the database.

I do not see a form, price, or any information to do testing directly through Geneseek/Neogen, even though I know they do it. In the past I had to contact them on some other testing in order for them to send me the correct form to use and it later showed up on their website.

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Re: Myostatin gene
« Reply #87 on: July 28, 2019, 03:47:00 PM »
if one tested for all nine variants, the results for EACH should show up on that animals web page

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Re: Myostatin gene
« Reply #88 on: July 28, 2019, 05:01:57 PM »
knabe...did you go through the Shorthorn assn or direct? And when you say "animals web page"............is that on the labs web site or the Shorthorn Assn. web site or pedigree or whatever?
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« Reply #89 on: July 28, 2019, 05:08:16 PM »
So when you get the results from the ASA you get results for F94L, nt 419 and E226x. But what does it take........if you go through the ASA to get into the lab's web site that shows all 9 variants. Is there a code? Does the ASA block that? Can you see on the labs web site....all cattle that have been tested? Or is that all confidential information.?
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