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What does it take to start a new breed assc.? Are they profit or non-profit organizations? Like the Red Angus essentially started with 5 members or whatever way back when. What would it take to start say a Durham Red breed organization? Black Herfords? Purple alpacas? I spose you would need insurance in case of a law suit and on and on. Wasn't there a ankina assc. and a chiangus assc. at one time. I wonder what was the shortest lived assc. was. Did the Herfords and the polled  Herfords eventually combine assc. How about the Texas Longhorn assc. Do they have a headquarters and what is their membership numbers. How about the lowlines? What about epds? I guess you could start a new breed,declare yourself ceo and have one member? Could there be say a club calf breeders registry to help keep tract of defects or what not. It wouldn't be purebred but just a listing of pedigree lines. Just throwing it out there. Are there more breeds than nessecary out there? What about the Amerifax organization how are they doing?
 

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What do you have up your sleeve aj?  ;D I do know that there already is a Black hereford assoc and the Hereford Assoc's did combine, but there are many state association that are still separate. Didn't the Shorthorn Association come up with the name "Durham Red"? So there might be some legal problems if they have that trademarked or something.
 

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Well...it seems that breed asscociations are constantly evolving maybe changes are in order.Seems all breeds of cattle are trying to look like angus. It almost seems like to me there would be potential to form a maine anjou composite breed. For example the santa gertrudis was a newly established breed. They were hybrid cattle(shorthorn and brahman) that were linebred for years and eventually considered a breed. Is it time for such a thing in the maine anjou and Angus cattle? It would be a long process that would take alot of time to develop or what ever but what does history tell us. It would be kinda interesting to study how breeds and assc's have developed and formed. Wasn't the Santa Gertrudious started by one ranch? I would think that the Red Angus breed would be considered to have had the most success as a start up. Or would it be better to try and change the current organizations? There are all kind of breeds having appendix programs. Red Angus,Shorthorn,Simmental,Limi's,Gelbviehs,Salers, Maine Anjou, and who am I leaving out. Your Red Angus's appendix is like the 1b cattle. They are appendix but they are not trying to look like another breed. It was just a program to upgrade and increase numbers. I never thought I'd see the polled Herfords and the herfords combine. 30 years ago the two enities were seperate and they didn't nessecarily like each others cattle or each other. They had a lot of pride. Back then you had the polled and the horned factions ready to go to war over something as minor as the horn condition of cattle. Now you have breeds that seem to deal in say 3 breeds within their organization. I'm not saying its wrong or right its just the way it is. I reckon it has to do with organizations survival(keeping or increasing numbers).  It is good to have various breeds and types of cattle out there because economic and enviromental conditions will change. I remember when alot of Herford breeders got into the Salers for some reason to try and survive the coming of the exotic cattle or whatever. Sometimes the voyage is more interesting than the destination.
 

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Could a longhorn (specifically being bred for bull dogging) be called a horn dog?
 

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Would a belgium-chianina composite breed be called a Belch-ina?      Would a Longhorn -Chianina composite breed be called a Hornynina?
 

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aj said:
Well...it seems that breed asscociations are constantly evolving maybe changes are in order.Seems all breeds of cattle are trying to look like angus. It almost seems like to me there would be potential to form a maine anjou composite breed. For example the santa gertrudis was a newly established breed. They were hybrid cattle(shorthorn and brahman) that were linebred for years and eventually considered a breed. Is it time for such a thing in the maine anjou and Angus cattle? It would be a long process that would take alot of time to develop or what ever but what does history tell us. It would be kinda interesting to study how breeds and assc's have developed and formed. Wasn't the Santa Gertrudious started by one ranch? I would think that the Red Angus breed would be considered to have had the most success as a start up. Or would it be better to try and change the current organizations? There are all kind of breeds having appendix programs. Red Angus,Shorthorn,Simmental,Limi's,Gelbviehs,Salers, Maine Anjou, and who am I leaving out. Your Red Angus's appendix is like the 1b cattle. They are appendix but they are not trying to look like another breed. It was just a program to upgrade and increase numbers. I never thought I'd see the polled Herfords and the herfords combine. 30 years ago the two enities were seperate and they didn't nessecarily like each others cattle or each other. They had a lot of pride. Back then you had the polled and the horned factions ready to go to war over something as minor as the horn condition of cattle. Now you have breeds that seem to deal in say 3 breeds within their organization. I'm not saying its wrong or right its just the way it is. I reckon it has to do with organizations survival(keeping or increasing numbers).  It is good to have various breeds and types of cattle out there because economic and enviromental conditions will change. I remember when alot of Herford breeders got into the Salers for some reason to try and survive the coming of the exotic cattle or whatever. Sometimes the voyage is more interesting than the destination.

The Santa Gertrudious was developed by the King ranch.  Also the Maine Anjou was originally a composit of Shorthorn and Mancelle.  Beefmaster was 1/2 Brahman, 1/4 Shorthorn, 1/4 Herford. 
 

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The Herefords were one until the Polled Herefords split from them.  Then there were two associations until recently when they recombined to keep one or the other afloat. 
 
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