I did see him in Denver, but did not see him walk. I did like him well enough to put a 1/2 rack in the tank. I think he has the look that I need in my cows and is clean fronted for a simi. I do question if he has enough bone, but that is the clubbie in me. I like the bull and hope he gets used enough so that we'll know more next year. A few other bulls that I like are DJ Salution, R&R Warehouse, P-F's Ammo bull, Shilo's Black Man, & White Farms Hustler.