I think the calf could be a sleeper but its hard to say in pictures, but i dont think pictures do any calf justice. I think he slopes off the hip some? but he could be a late bloomer. I have a bull for sale that would change that in a hurry. If you no anybody that is interested in building top notch show calves then check out my blog shepherdsshowcattle.blogspot.com this bull has worked better on our cows than any bull we have ever used. Including Sunseeker, Ali, Hard Core, Carnac and more not saying those bulls diddnt work. Chad