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Pelletted Cotton seed hulls versus regular
« on: October 16, 2009, 08:08:00 AM »
I've been looking at switching feed mills and the mill I am looking to switch to says they will only use pelletted cotton seed hulls.  Does anybody have any experience with this? 
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Re: Pelletted Cotton seed hulls versus regular
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2009, 08:31:56 AM »
same product in a different package.  pelleted hulls flow better through standard milling systems .  if you are getting a grind and mix type feed, it will act the same way. 

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Re: Pelletted Cotton seed hulls versus regular
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2009, 08:55:22 AM »
 I actually like them better. The pellets that is.
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Re: Pelletted Cotton seed hulls versus regular
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2009, 08:56:03 AM »
What about fertility concerns one versus the other. ?

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Re: Pelletted Cotton seed hulls versus regular
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2009, 09:50:51 AM »
same product in a different package.  pelleted hulls flow better through standard milling systems .  if you are getting a grind and mix type feed, it will act the same way. 


That's the reason they told me they use pelleted cotton seed hulls.
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Re: Pelletted Cotton seed hulls versus regular
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2009, 10:48:56 AM »
nutritionally there is no difference between the 2.  i guess some might suggest that the heat and pressure required to pellet the hulls may tie up some of the gossypol, but I would not worry about gossypol in hulls when fed in a mixed ration.

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Re: Pelletted Cotton seed hulls versus regular
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2009, 11:39:15 AM »
nutritionally there is no difference between the 2.  i guess some might suggest that the heat and pressure required to pellet the hulls may tie up some of the gossypol, but I would not worry about gossypol in hulls when fed in a mixed ration.


So really the only difference would be the appearance then?  Sorry, I'm OCD about my feed!
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Re: Pelletted Cotton seed hulls versus regular
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2009, 01:12:44 PM »
We have fed the pelleted product for about 2 years now and have no problems with it at all.  The advantages are, it doesn't clog up in the self feeders and the feed is cleaner.

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Re: Pelletted Cotton seed hulls versus regular
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2009, 02:52:11 PM »
Thanks Jill, I didn't think about the clogging.  Hmmmmm.....I may really need to seriously consider this.
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Re: Pelletted Cotton seed hulls versus regular
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2009, 02:56:24 PM »
I've been told the heat required to pelletize the cttonseed hulls drastically reduce the gossoypol (sp?) We have access to whole cottonseed down here but we can only feed 5 lbs/hd/day b/c of fertility concerns.
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Re: Pelletted Cotton seed hulls versus regular
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2009, 03:23:08 PM »
whole cottonseed feeding is correct as indicated by Shortdawg.  Cotton contains a naturaly occuring chemical called gossypol that is toxic in high levels. low levels are toxic to monogastrics.  Ruminants can handle at higher rates as the gossypol is tied up by proteins in the rumen.  Most adult cattle can handle 5-6 lbs/hd/day of whole cottonseed without adverse effects.     Most of the gossypol is found in the oil and therefore is of little concern in hulls. 
http://pods.dasnr.okstate.edu/docushare/dsweb/Get/Document-1952/VTMD-9116.pdf
good article on gossypol toxicity.

Please excuse my fervor for this subject.  I trade cottonseed for a living to support my cattle habit.
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Re: Pelletted Cotton seed hulls versus regular
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2009, 03:26:57 PM »
whole cottonseed feeding is correct as indicated by Shortdawg.  Cotton contains a naturaly occuring chemical called gossypol that is toxic in high levels. low levels are toxic to monogastrics.  Ruminants can handle at higher rates as the gossypol is tied up by proteins in the rumen.  Most adult cattle can handle 5-6 lbs/hd/day of whole cottonseed without adverse effects.     Most of the gossypol is found in the oil and therefore is of little concern in hulls. 
http://pods.dasnr.okstate.edu/docushare/dsweb/Get/Document-1952/VTMD-9116.pdf
good article on gossypol toxicity.

Please excuse my fervor for this subject.  I trade cottonseed for a living to support my cattle habit.
Chap


I appreciate all of the information I can get.  I came away from this topic with alot more knowlege than just if pelleted hulls are equivalent to regular hulls.
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Re: Pelletted Cotton seed hulls versus regular
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2009, 08:30:34 PM »
In my experience, pelleted cottonseed hulls serve no purpose in a ration other than to ad fiber to the diet. We use cottonseed hulls to ad  texture and bulk to the feed and ad volume and shape to the animal as beet pulp does. Pelleting the hulls negates all of that. If that is the fiber source in the feed for cows or replacement heifers that's fine. But IMO pelleted cotton seed hulls serve zero purpose in a show cattle ration as they provide little nutrition and no bulk.

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Re: Pelletted Cotton seed hulls versus regular
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2009, 07:36:35 AM »
FWIW--- Purina/Honor Show Chow has switched a significant portion of the CS hulls in their feed to the pelleted form, at least in our area--looks a bit different but seems to feed the same.

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Re: Pelletted Cotton seed hulls versus regular
« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2009, 07:59:36 AM »
Nice to hear from you Gonewest, we've missed you!

 

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