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Offline jlcattle

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Proposed livestock tax by EPA
« on: December 11, 2008, 01:24:56 PM »
Do you think this will really pass? I think this is about the craziest thing I have heard. Can someone shed some light on this.

http://skinnymoose.com/pr/index.php/2008/12/comments-urgently-needed-to-oppose-epa-proposed-livestock-tax/
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Re: Proposed livestock tax by EPA
« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2008, 02:16:51 PM »
it will pass.


check out california's agenda.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/board/ma/2008/ma121108.htm
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Re: Proposed livestock tax by EPA
« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2008, 04:47:41 PM »
knabe

what is California going to do when its out of money

Quote from: knabe on December 11, 2008, 02:16:51 PM
it will pass.


check out california's agenda.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/board/ma/2008/ma121108.htm

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Re: Proposed livestock tax by EPA
« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2008, 05:00:34 PM »
Quote from: Jason on December 11, 2008, 04:47:41 PM
knabe

what is California going to do when its out of money

Quote from: knabe on December 11, 2008, 02:16:51 PM
it will pass.


check out california's agenda.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/board/ma/2008/ma121108.htm




jason, jason, jason.  you are making me laugh.  we are already out of money.  we are going to raise taxes and cut education of course.  we will of course not cut anything in sacramento and distribute power and money back to local municipalities, for instance property tax which the state takes 89% of ours.  of course they give back some in the form of bribes, oops, i mean infrastructure, grants with requirements with govt jobs.  it just never ends.  now unemployment benefits are being looked at as the state is at 8.7 i think which of course doesn't count those not looking or underemployed.

things are going to happen fast.  property tax was due on dec. 10 and around end of march.  they are asking businesses to pay a more agressive pay forward on quarterly estimates.

but they will NEVER cut any of the lame regulatory infrastructure or cut back on the ability to impose regulations that raise the cost and compliance of business which directly benefits job security for government employees with little benefit to the public.  just smaller versions of schumer frank and dodd with loans to people who can't pay them.

this is not last word complaining.  it's just reality.
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Re: Proposed livestock tax by EPA
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2008, 06:03:46 PM »
First off, it is NOT a proposed tax.....YET.

What this is  is a supreme court decision several YEARS ago that methane was in fact a greenhouse emmision and COULD be controled by the EPA.  There is NOTHING in the works YET.
But NOW is the time to voice your concerns and opinions to your congressmen and senators. NOW, not AFTER the fact. Because, more than likely this will be picked up (already has been) by animal rights groups to put into legislation in order to put livestock farms out of business.

So, act NOW  and talk to your elected officals........and then report to us what they said. The folks on here have no say in what is proposed or passed.
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Re: Proposed livestock tax by EPA
« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2008, 06:21:38 PM »
Well I guess the terminator will have to save you.  I guess I should appreciate that Kansas moves a bit slower and the conservative nature hasn't slowed down us as much as either coast.

How did you end up in California anyways?  I thought I read you have family in Okla?


Quote from: knabe on December 11, 2008, 05:00:34 PM
Quote from: Jason on December 11, 2008, 04:47:41 PM
knabe

what is California going to do when its out of money

Quote from: knabe on December 11, 2008, 02:16:51 PM
it will pass.


check out california's agenda.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/board/ma/2008/ma121108.htm




jason, jason, jason.  you are making me laugh.  we are already out of money.  we are going to raise taxes and cut education of course.  we will of course not cut anything in sacramento and distribute power and money back to local municipalities, for instance property tax which the state takes 89% of ours.  of course they give back some in the form of bribes, oops, i mean infrastructure, grants with requirements with govt jobs.  it just never ends.  now unemployment benefits are being looked at as the state is at 8.7 i think which of course doesn't count those not looking or underemployed.

things are going to happen fast.  property tax was due on dec. 10 and around end of march.  they are asking businesses to pay a more agressive pay forward on quarterly estimates.

but they will NEVER cut any of the lame regulatory infrastructure or cut back on the ability to impose regulations that raise the cost and compliance of business which directly benefits job security for government employees with little benefit to the public.  just smaller versions of schumer frank and dodd with loans to people who can't pay them.

this is not last word complaining.  it's just reality.

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Re: Proposed livestock tax by EPA
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2008, 06:31:55 PM »
Quote from: Jason on December 11, 2008, 06:21:38 PM
How did you end up in California anyways?  I thought I read you have family in Okla?

my folks grew up in near hazelton ks. and alva ok.  met at northwestern.  dad joined navy as wpa wasn't much with a kid on the ground.  went all over and settled in bay area.  family is still in ok, ks.  in ok, they recently moved from alva to near stillwater next to 35.  my grandmother helped write footprints of woods county and did lots of other stuff.  we have redneck family and friends in eastern ok that still have outhouses.  one recently retired as a grade school teacher (a male, shock).  my heart will always be in OK.  i could move to SD down to texas along the 35.  montana, ND, canada, i would really have to have some quick schooling on survival.  probably retire south of OK city to DFW east of the 35.  it's just too pretty all year long to not live there.  i still have this fantasy that i can make some money from options and purchase some overpriced grazing land out here.
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