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Question for Hereford breeders
« on: January 06, 2012, 11:30:41 PM »
The main focus on making Hereford steers for my kids to show: Cyrus, Womanizer, Cottonmouth, About Time, Revoluton are some bulls that you have mentioned and I like.  Is there another you definately would put on this list or take off?  I'm trying to stay below 90lbs BW.  There's alot of nice Hereford bulls out there! Thanks.

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Re: Question for Hereford breeders
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2012, 03:04:01 AM »
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Re: Question for Hereford breeders
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2012, 09:20:06 AM »
Feltons Ledgend 242 is another nice one. Hes also the sire of Revolution if I remember right
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Re: Question for Hereford breeders
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2012, 10:54:26 AM »
If you are shooting for show steers you can't go wrong with any purple reign bull, MH Monument 3147, LaGrand Reload 80P ET are also good choices

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Re: Question for Hereford breeders
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2012, 04:39:59 PM »
I was not impressed with my Purple Millsap bull/steer calves but really like the heifers, however I was surprised that their birth weights were close to 100 lbs., I never touched one and they seem to come easy, but would definitely stay away from heifers with him. I don't think they advertise him as being a heifer bull at all, but that is my opinion. Reload and Moler both have worked well for PB steers. Some of the Neon calves have looked good and pretty good calving easy with him and most of his sons, I know that Lonestar purchased  GH ADAMS 279R WEBSTER 225W 2 years ago at NWSS, and would sure be worth while looking into, possibly could make some nice steers.

Now if you are wanting some clubby influence in them I think there are some nice choices out there. I used One & Only and had really good results and 70% came out with Hereford markings and will be very competitive, and out of 12 calves all birth weights were below 87lbs..I am considering Red Rock and Made Right also Just Right looks good. None of the other clubby bulls that I tried gave me Hereford markings, but I will be trying a couple bulls from above this spring.

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Re: Question for Hereford breeders
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2012, 06:34:56 PM »
We have had success using Stocker. My intention was to get replacement heifers but ended up with all steers. The steer in picture was Grand Champion at the Border Classic  Steer show in Nappan, Nova Scotia. I believe he has a genetic defect (something to do with bald calves)and can only be used for commercial (non-purebred) purposes.

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Re: Question for Hereford breeders
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2012, 07:08:32 PM »
The main focus on making Hereford steers for my kids to show: Cyrus, Womanizer, Cottonmouth, About Time, Revoluton are some bulls that you have mentioned and I like.  Is there another you definately would put on this list or take off?  I'm trying to stay below 90lbs BW.  There's alot of nice Hereford bulls out there! Thanks.
you about one week away from the Denver results that will have more popular bulls that have just went thru the show on the Hill the Star Lake Bulls are very saleable bull or heifer calves if I were you i would check results in a week of the Denver show

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Re: Question for Hereford breeders
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2012, 07:27:11 PM »
i second reload and any purple rein bull. ive also seen some good looking steers out of the bull repo. he is an older bull but in his pic he looks like he would fit in in todays club calve deals.

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Re: Question for Hereford breeders
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2012, 10:33:41 PM »
If you're wanting to use a registered bull, you need to consider Crossfire.  A little more moderate and a little stouter than most of the other pb Hereford bulls.  He's worked well for us.

If you can use one that isn't pb, Carpe Diem can do great things on the right cow. 
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Re: Question for Hereford breeders
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2012, 07:44:51 AM »
If you're wanting to use a registered bull, you need to consider Crossfire.  A little more moderate and a little stouter than most of the other pb Hereford bulls.  He's worked well for us.

If you can use one that isn't pb, Carpe Diem can do great things on the right cow. 

like what kind of cow... and what's crossfire?

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Re: Question for Hereford breeders
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2012, 11:28:06 AM »
I've never seen Carpe Diem change a big, framey, flatter made cow enough to make a show steer (not that'll compete in OK or TX anyway).  The really good ones I've seen have all been out of moderate framed, stouter cows.  That's our experience anyway.

Crossfire...

http://www.sekgenetics.com/bull_pg.php?bull=2385&breed=8

I tried looking on the AHA website to find a complete pedigree, but apparentley only members have access to that sort of thing (or maybe even they don't).  He's not in the current sire summary.  I don't neccesarly think he's THE answer for a registered Hereford bull, just the only one I have any experience with  that's consistently put enough meat and bone in 'em for competitive show steers.

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Re: Question for Hereford breeders
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2012, 11:31:28 AM »
               K&B SUMMIT 4064 1ET (18560268)
           K&B SUMMIT 8103 (18959908)
               K&B MISS TITAN 1654 (18151705)
       Sire: DB GRAND SLAM (42122151)
               K&B SUMMIT 8103 (18959908)
           B&S MISS SUMMIT 145E (19543057)
               B&S INCRD MS 101 4ET (19231580)
Animal: H/T CROSSFIRE 600 (42720744)
               TOTAL TREND (19528216)
           L3 TOTAL TREND 8001 (41025571)
               L3 LADY DUKE 21 (19147508)
       Dam: H/T HEART BREAKER (42298977)
               DESERT EDGE {SOD} (19406832)
           H/T HOT DESERT WHOOPI (42048117)
               L3 LADY WHOOPI 7004 (40020596)


Same Summit bull family as on the bottom side of Big Jake?

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Re: Question for Hereford breeders
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2012, 11:46:02 AM »
Lol, or maybe you just need to know where to look. Thanks Jody.

I'm pretty sure that is the same Summit lines.

These are both Crossfire sons that we've shown.  The first was reserve champion Hereford steer at Tulsa in 2011,  the other one was selected the third Hereford steer in the premium sale right behind the champion and reserve in 2010. Both of them needed to be a little softer middled, the 2011 could have been neater fronted and sheathed, the 2010 needed a little more slope in his shoulder and and knee, but both were super stout.
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Re: Question for Hereford breeders
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2012, 12:14:34 PM »
just gotta do a little ...  <party>


I'm wondering, if a guy had some herf, or black cows.. could mate them to something like Crossfire for herd builder females.. then turned around and bred them terminal and THC to something like red rock, or carpe-- I wonder what would happen?? 

For a purebred, he just looks interesting.. like that pedigree- -even though I know almost nothing about herfs..

btw.. I see a herf in my near future... carpe's in the tank already...

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Re: Question for Hereford breeders
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2012, 03:14:55 PM »
just gotta do a little ...  <party>


I'm wondering, if a guy had some herf, or black cows.. could mate them to something like Crossfire for herd builder females.. then turned around and bred them terminal and THC to something like red rock, or carpe-- I wonder what would happen?? 

For a purebred, he just looks interesting.. like that pedigree- -even though I know almost nothing about herfs..

btw.. I see a herf in my near future... carpe's in the tank already...


In my limited experience with Carpe I was very disappointed with the use on PB Hereford cows, first of all I had very poor conception at 10% of 18 cows and I know your going to say my program was screwed up but I bred 56 other cows at the same time and had 70% success on the other cows that were bred at the same time. I have seen lots of Carpe calves out there so I know that not all of the semen was of poor quality. #2 out of the 18, 12 were replacement heifers and were all were of adequate size with good pelvic measurements and the 2 that settled to Carpe both were heifers, and both were XL calves that I to put zippers in to get the calves, both were 115 lbs.. So it was bad luck all the way around with Carpe, not that he should be knocked but I would not use him again and I would not recommend him as a heifer bull. Like I said at the beginning this was a very limited experience.

I am glad to hear you would like to try a herf, I hope she will do a great job for you.

 

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