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Re: Saskvalley Yesterday
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2018, 06:25:50 PM »
Two months ago I inspected for registration some calves.
The best one I saw were by Yesterday!
A good surprise as I was saw some a year later with good shape as well, and this year Yesterday show some good consistence on progeny.
The heifer were great....wide loin and meat until hook....wide back side too....a very good head, very feminine. All with a wonderful roan coat.
Yesterday is being a good option here.
Sorry, but the other bull is unknown to me, so cann't give my opinion.

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Re: Saskvalley Yesterday
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2018, 11:46:59 PM »
Some other bulls to consider would be crooked post stockman, muridale robert, diamond proficy, drc 101vm,  saskvalley imperative and if wanting some show look danny d.  I like mark's suggestions if those genetics suit your needs especially final four.  I believe yesterday has good calving ease but higher bw than anticipated when mated to certain genetics.  If mating him to cows you should have no issues.  If wanting another roan option Jake's sultan of jazz

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Re: Saskvalley Yesterday
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2018, 08:03:00 PM »
Some other bulls to consider would be crooked post stockman, muridale robert, diamond proficy, drc 101vm,  saskvalley imperative and if wanting some show look danny d.  I like mark's suggestions if those genetics suit your needs especially final four.  I believe yesterday has good calving ease but higher bw than anticipated when mated to certain genetics.  If mating him to cows you should have no issues.  If wanting another roan option Jake's sultan of jazz/// I like Sultan .Tabasco, and Bollums Jazz bull-all are clean as well-If you get one near white-two of them are solid red-ALL are way proven and by pedigree alone would really work with the ones I suggested-or ANY of the Canadian Breds Jazz X Canadian just works Dont know how it would work with DRC-but hed sure work on daughters of the above Ditto with the Crooked post cattle-they are mainly Waukaru-which I think cross THE BEST with something with a little maine or what have you-nobody has done it lately-so who knows O0

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Re: Saskvalley Yesterday
« Reply #18 on: January 13, 2018, 08:22:30 AM »
I have used three of the bulls mentioned, namely Yesterday, Gauge and Stockman.
Yesterday and Gauge were both very impressive, and I have progeny of the Gauge progeny as well. I initially brought in 25-30 doses of each, and in both cases brought in another tranche of 25-30 doses.
Gauge came in first and has really impressed with low BW, good WW, YW and 18mnth weights. I used two sons and have had some of his heifers calve to Yesterday and other bulls. The calves were mostly bulls. They flesh well and have been fertile. I still have 30 doses in my tank.
I only join to calve at 30- or 36mnths due to my extensive conditions. I join at >750lbs, so conditions determine when I join, not age.
Yesterday mostly produced heifers! The oldest will be joined this year. We used him mostly on heifers and the calves came easily and have grown well! The progeny are wide over the hips and look very promising! I still have 39 doses in my tank.
Stockman is my latest acquisition, I took the semen marketing rights and 400 doses. I used 55 doses in 2017, cows and heifers, so am expecting a number of progeny this year, first due about 20 February! If my progeny looks as good as the progeny at Crooked Post I will be happy!
ASA Spring 2018 EPD's look great on all these bulls as well!

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Re: Saskvalley Yesterday
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2018, 12:03:30 PM »
First two Stockman calves arrived last week, due date 22 February.
First one arrived Tues 30 January, second Thurs 01 February, have never had this problem before, dipped them for ticks with a Cypermethrin dip on the Monday, and gave them 5cc Multimin with Cu and Se, like I always do a month before calving to ease management.
The calves were 28kg (62lbs) and 29kg (64lbs), the second was dead on the Saturday morning! My calves normally average 80-100lbs, except with Gauge when they averaged less!
Post mortem, self, showed nothing evident, other than slight bleeding around the navel area.
I usually dip with a long acting Ivermectin before calving, could the Cypermethrin have been the problem? I need to do some research on the matter.
Both cows needed to have their placentas removed, unusual. Their BC scores are good, see picture, first calf heifer, even though we are in a drought.
No wonder the average age of farmers is >55yrs, it takes you that long to experience most problems!

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Re: Saskvalley Yesterday
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2018, 12:08:35 PM »
Other picture.

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Re: Saskvalley Yesterday
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2018, 12:59:59 PM »
Thats a nicely made heifer you can see how dry it is-she have any Aussie Blood?  O0

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Re: Saskvalley Yesterday
« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2018, 12:17:28 PM »
Her sire is by Spry's All Gold D052. I am very excited to see how Stockman does on the All Gold progeny.
Her full brother is a Gold Merit bull, they are extremely easy fleshing!

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Re: Saskvalley Yesterday
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2018, 02:07:57 PM »
First two Stockman calves arrived last week, due date 22 February.
First one arrived Tues 30 January, second Thurs 01 February, have never had this problem before, dipped them for ticks with a Cypermethrin dip on the Monday, and gave them 5cc Multimin with Cu and Se, like I always do a month before calving to ease management.
The calves were 28kg (62lbs) and 29kg (64lbs), the second was dead on the Saturday morning! My calves normally average 80-100lbs, except with Gauge when they averaged less!
Post mortem, self, showed nothing evident, other than slight bleeding around the navel area.
I usually dip with a long acting Ivermectin before calving, could the Cypermethrin have been the problem? I need to do some research on the matter.
Both cows needed to have their placentas removed, unusual. Their BC scores are good, see picture, first calf heifer, even though we are in a drought.
No wonder the average age of farmers is >55yrs, it takes you that long to experience most problems!
Those are really small birth weights even for Stockman, I think high 70's to mid 80's catch the majority of his calves. Did you find out if it could be the Cypermethrin? You are right about it taking that long to experience most problems. I think the average age here has gone over 60! I attached a photo of a Crooked Post Stockman granddaughter at foot of our show cow last November. She is by Crooked Post Drover 28C.

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Re: Saskvalley Yesterday
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2018, 10:08:25 AM »
Duncraggan did you have any free choice mineral out?  I have had similar issues with cows having small calves that only live for 1 to 5 days poat calving.  I only started experiencing this problem in the drought coupled with multimin injections 1 month pre calving.  Usually it is the first few cow's that calve then the problem is gone.  I wonder if i should move the shots up to two months ahead of calving.  I just like doing it when i do because tjat is when we haul them up from the lower fields(15 min away) to the home calving field(160 acre field).  Keep us updated if you have anymore.

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Re: Saskvalley Yesterday
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2018, 12:49:10 PM »
Those are really small birth weights even for Stockman, I think high 70's to mid 80's catch the majority of his calves. Did you find out if it could be the Cypermethrin? You are right about it taking that long to experience most problems. I think the average age here has gone over 60! I attached a photo of a Crooked Post Stockman granddaughter at foot of our show cow last November. She is by Crooked Post Drover 28C.
They are tiny for me!
Unable to find anything on Google about the Cypermethrin either.
Great November show pair there too.

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Re: Saskvalley Yesterday
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2018, 01:11:13 PM »
Duncraggan did you have any free choice mineral out?  I have had similar issues with cows having small calves that only live for 1 to 5 days poat calving.  I only started experiencing this problem in the drought coupled with multimin injections 1 month pre calving.  Usually it is the first few cow's that calve then the problem is gone.  I wonder if i should move the shots up to two months ahead of calving.  I just like doing it when i do because tjat is when we haul them up from the lower fields(15 min away) to the home calving field(160 acre field).  Keep us updated if you have anymore.
Good information/advice there mbigelow, thanks. I will push the Multimin out to 6-weeks pre-calving in Spring to see what happens.
I tend to blame drought, and poor management decisions when I change my routine, before anything though!
I calved three more to Stockman this week, 37kg (81lbs) bull on Tuesday from a cow, front leg back and head out, and driven a long way to my facilities before a medium difficulty assist. Mother rejected the calf and we did assisted suckling, lay down and never got up without assistance to feed three times daily until it died Friday.
42kg (92lbs) heifer calved Wednesday out of a first calver, no problem!
Twins Thursday, 30kg (66lbs) bull and 29kg (64lbs) heifer from a cow. Small but strong, bull calf has a hernia on the navel but is nursing strongly.
Had three calvings after lunch today but my herdsman on duty is iliterate so don't know if they are all Stockman calves, used some Irish semen on my second pedigree herd and there were a couple that looked close too. Find out Monday when all hands are on deck again!

 

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