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Shorthorn Question
« on: September 27, 2009, 09:04:23 PM »
Whats everybody using to generate good shorty steers?  Got a large framed shorty cow I want to breed for a shorty colored calf.  Give me some suggestions.  Im thinking Radioactive or Ivy League.  Whats everybody think?

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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2009, 09:07:19 PM »
Whats everybody using to generate good shorty steers?  Got a large framed shorty cow I want to breed for a shorty colored calf.  Give me some suggestions.  Im thinking Radioactive or Ivy League.  Whats everybody think?

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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2009, 09:07:36 PM »
I'd use Double Stuff if it were me I guess.  Either of those bulls would probably work, but there are no Ivy League calves on the ground. I really like him though, and we're going to use him next year!  I'm wearing an Ivy League hat as I type this  ;)
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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2009, 09:14:22 PM »
our radio actives were pretty narrow, and frail out of big boned, chunky cows

d stuff or d vision, or really any of the vision stuff..

guess jpj could work too, if you want something newer


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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2009, 10:27:34 PM »
I'd use JPJ - especially on a large frame cow. Steer in my avatar is a JPJ
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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2009, 10:44:42 PM »
Double Vision has worked for terminal steer projects as he usually takes them down a tick in frame and stouten's them up. Jake' Proud jazz did not give us any additional bone neither did Gizmo but both did add body and rib shape. I have never used DOuble Stuff himself.
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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2009, 12:40:33 PM »
I had a large framed shortie and used double vision.he burned the frame down and put hair and a hip on the heifer calf.Ilike DV. I like JPJ, but the bull calf i had,lacked thickness .however the cow could have played a role in that .rusty

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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2009, 12:58:14 PM »
any vision bred makes awesome steers.
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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2009, 01:56:45 PM »
You didn't say what the TH or PHA status was on your cow.   If she carries either gene you need to be careful with Double Stuff or his sons.   I've used quite a bit of Double Stuff and Double Vision in the past and got some really good calves.   Unfortunately, before we could test for TH, I used him on some Th positive females and got 3 dead calves, too!!    A lot of people forget about the TH and PHA genes when they're planning for steers but it'll affect bull calves too, so keep it in mind.    If your cow is clean both ways you can use about anything you want and I'd probably recommend Double Stuff or Jakes Proud Jazz because their more proven than some of the younger sires.  I've seen some of the Double Visions get pretty tall out of big cows.

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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2009, 02:47:56 PM »
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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #10 on: September 28, 2009, 03:24:14 PM »
Here is another option you can think about. If your cow has lots of volume and is definitely structurally correct,especially in her front third through her shoulders, and is Th and Pha free,you should consider Warhorse. he don't get used a lot anymore,but if you get one that is sound,with some volume,they can be very tough to get around. Awesome bone, with unbelieveable "Double Stuff" hair. Swanson farms and Bennetts use him some,with success.The good thing about ole Warhorse,the cow don't have to be real powerful,he duz most of the work.
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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #11 on: September 28, 2009, 03:50:10 PM »
Im having good luck with AHL LUCKY RALPH- hes a Gizmo-on Double stuffs full sister,they are way thick-and correct O0

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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2009, 07:00:02 PM »
Thought Warhorse was a TH carrier??  Does make some real good steers out of some plain cows.

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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2009, 08:15:25 PM »
Warhorse is a carrier for about everything. But boy are the calves good.

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Re: Shorthorn Question
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2009, 08:47:14 PM »
Mark, is Lucky Ralph a PHA carrier?

 

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