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« on: July 10, 2009, 10:17:00 PM »
I am new to this shorthorn deal, but I have a calf and tryin to do my research on sires so when it comes time i will know who i want to breed her to.  She is a solution daughter and it seems to me that every sire out there is a trump, sonny, or solution son so give me some insight?
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Re: Shorthorn Sires
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2009, 08:16:52 AM »
http://www.steerplanet.com/bb/index.php?topic=11230.15

http://www.steerplanet.com/bb/index.php?topic=10737.0

He's got some sonny in him, if I recall right, but he's pretty good and if you're looking for a good shorty this is one for sure.

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Re: Shorthorn Sires
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2009, 09:09:48 AM »
I am new to this shorthorn deal, but I have a calf and tryin to do my research on sires so when it comes time i will know who i want to breed her to.  She is a solution daughter and it seems to me that every sire out there is a trump, sonny, or solution son so give me some insight?

there are alot of trump outcrosses out there...tm gus, jpj, gizmo, nitro, captain obvious  to name a few...and of course there are many more if you look north of the border!   ;)  jit can elaborate more on that...
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Re: Shorthorn Sires
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2009, 11:57:45 AM »
i wouldn't call gus an outcross to trump. why outcross trump in the first place. linebreeding it seems to be working

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Re: Shorthorn Sires
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2009, 12:07:24 PM »
i wouldn't call gus an outcross to trump.

did i miss the connection somewhere?

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Re: Shorthorn Sires
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2009, 01:16:08 PM »
Showman,  ne I think that if you look at the pedigree of TM Gus 36S you will find that he actually is an outcross to Trump. If you can find the connection let me know, a lot of breeders are using him as an outcross sire and I donnot want sell him as something he is not.

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Re: Shorthorn Sires
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2009, 01:52:04 PM »
ALM Chiller and Wildsiide

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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2009, 02:58:02 PM »
CHILLER IS GOOD, AND WE HAVE LINED UP THE ROSE -CUMBERLAND - LTDEDITION WITH OUR BULL-PANAMA RED, AND ARSULU OSAGE, CIRCLE K OF IOWA SOLD SOME GOOD THICK ONES AT THE POLLED CONGRESS, AND STUDERS JAZZ SON, WHO IS FLAT AWESOME O0 (:))

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Re: Shorthorn Sires
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2009, 03:44:26 PM »
I am new to this shorthorn deal, but I have a calf and tryin to do my research on sires so when it comes time i will know who i want to breed her to.  She is a solution daughter and it seems to me that every sire out there is a trump, sonny, or solution son so give me some insight?

Since you're talking about a heifer, I'd pay a lot of attention to birthweight (especially since she's a Solution).  Here's a photo of a bull that I think might work.  If you like his looks and think he'll complimetn your heifer, let me know and I'll give you more details.

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Re: Shorthorn Sires
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2009, 04:31:27 PM »
Jake's Proud Jazz or TM Gus - the steer of ours you saw at the State Show was a JPJ
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Re: Shorthorn Sires
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2009, 05:25:19 PM »
i wouldn't call gus an outcross to trump. why outcross trump in the first place. linebreeding it seems to be working
I am an Angus kid so after the recent problems with curly calf and waterhead, linebreeding is not what i want to do.
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Re: Shorthorn Sires
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2009, 05:27:39 PM »
I wouldn't be that afraid of linebreeding Trump a little bit, there's no genetic defects there. If your heifer is easy fleshing, toss some more Trump or Sonny blood in there.  I like our bull, Hi-Vew's Red Diamond, but I'd wait until she's a cow as he's not quite proven as a heifer bull yet.
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Re: Shorthorn Sires
« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2009, 09:36:50 PM »
Well we have to add American Muscle to this mix!!!

His calves this year are darn good!  Averaging about 78 lbs...

Will have calf pics up after we get back from vacation

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Re: Shorthorn Sires
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2009, 09:19:46 AM »
Trump goes back to Cunia. Cunia is clean of everthing except monkey mouth as I understand it. Not sure how the monkey mouth deal works.
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Re: Shorthorn Sires
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2009, 09:42:09 AM »
i wouldn't call gus an outcross to trump. why outcross trump in the first place. linebreeding it seems to be working
I am an Angus kid so after the recent problems with curly calf and waterhead, linebreeding is not what i want to do.

I think linebreeding is good sometimes, but when overdone it leads to inbreeding and that's not what I want either

 

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