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Simmental pb and Simangus sires and marketing
« on: February 20, 2013, 04:45:13 PM »
Is there a good market for half blood show heifers? What sires do you recommend for look as well as performance?  Ideally looking to use a pb simmental to flush a red angus cow or an angus cow and making half blood bulls and show heifers so bulls need some kind of numbers enough to sell but a whole lot of look, soundness, eye appeal.

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Re: Simmental pb and Simangus sires and marketing
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2013, 04:58:05 PM »
I haven't found anything lately that combines look and numbers like Upgrade. He has some sons out there, too, but I'm kind of a believer in going back to the source. I don't want everything in the breed to become Upgrade or Upgrade progeny like it's been with Dream On, but I think he's gonna be pretty popular. With him being homozygous black, too, it's hard not to find a place to use him.

We're probably flushing a half blood baldy to Upgrade and another purebred to W/C United, making 3/4s out of both of em. Using a Shear Pleasure son on most of the Angus cows to make baldies...I'd say this Shear Pleasure son, One Eyed Jack, is one to look at, along with Broker and Lock n Load if you don't care to spend a little money on semen. I haven't seen many of those cattle, but I've seen a few Shear Pleasures (mixed reviews), seen Broker, and the hype on all three of those bulls means somebody likes em!

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Re: Simmental pb and Simangus sires and marketing
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2013, 05:29:32 PM »
I would second that Upgrade is probably one of the best combinations of numbers and look.  In my personal opinion a lot of the bulls that will sire the real popular show heifers will have trouble giving you bull calves with enough easy doing ability and ruggedness to be real popular with commercial bull buyers.  Both Lock n Load and Broker are bulls that fall into this category for me although time may prove me wrong.  I was never a big fan of Lock n Load himself but from the calves I have seen and what others are telling me the bull is out producing himself.  I was told the group of half blood calves at Remington's dispersal were very good by virtually everyone I talked to that saw them.  I would suggest that from a marketing standpoint using a blaze faced bull would help though there is no guarantee of getting blaze faced calves.  Using Meyer 734 or Macho is another option as the heifers may not be dominant show heifers today but would still probably be very marketable but once again the bulls would likely be lacking.  The other issue on some of these bulls is semen price but may not be a problem when flushing.

 

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