Sooner son or Ali grandson with proven milk and good udders

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knabe

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Are there any sooner sons or Ali grandsons with proven milk or a producer to talk with that would have them?

Want to keep % high and no tight pasterns and hopefully  good udder structure.
 

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Knabe ... my response to this was to start a thread about I-80 heifers and breeding choices for them... do you have any idea about I -80 udders or milk production?
 

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jbzdad said:
Knabe ... my response to this was to start a thread about I-80 heifers and breeding choices for them... do you have any idea about I -80 udders or milk production?

nope 
 

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Truline Maines has a Sooner son that is a 27.2 in milk epd. his BW is 2.6 with a 94lb bw, not calving ease, but plenty of milk. name of the bull is TLM Milkman. Nagels have a Ali grandson NAGE Bentley that is calving ease. he is also out of a good widetrack daughter so there should be milk. hope this helps.
 

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How would you even go about getting semen on Wide Track?  Are Nagel's still selling some?  I would think the supply would be getting pretty low.
 

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jbzdad said:
Knabe ... my response to this was to start a thread about I-80 heifers and breeding choices for them... do you have any idea about I -80 udders or milk production?

I have one.  She has a very nice udder and a lot of milk. 
 

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knabe said:
Now why do you know about wide track.

He is one bull I am going to flush to.

A Mr. Dennis Garwood once told me that if ever given to buy a Wide Track daughter(s), do not hesitate.
 

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Speaking of GVC..........  You might consider Closing Bell.  I purschased some semen from them after visiting the ranch prior to the female sale.  I went ahead and bought some females through the sale, but I didn't get any closing bell's bought.  I bid on several but didn't end up with any of them.  Dennis said they milked and were good mothers.  That was enough for me.  I wouldn't question his word for a second.
 

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The Closing Bell Females are incredible. A friend of mine is now working at Green Valley and says Closing Bell is the most impressive bull he has ever seen.
 

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Bovine Chaos said:
knabe said:
Now why do you know about wide track.

He is one bull I am going to flush to.

A Mr. Dennis Garwood once told me that if ever given to buy a Wide Track daughter(s), do not hesitate.

wide track's sire is one of the few animals with Smithbuilt's full sister in their pedigree.
 

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Bovine Chaos said:
The Closing Bell Females are incredible.

please elaborate.  udder/teat shape, mature size, mothering, hock flex.  anything with "the man" up close in them i'm a little worried about size, perhaps unfounded.
 

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Dennis said Closing Bell is the trusty stand by. good udders and teat placement, good mothers, Moderate frame, sound (plenty of flex). He works great on angus cows. here is a mature pic of him snapped back in january
 

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