The duststorm heifer, at the end of the bellringer heifer thread , has both those cows i bought from harold in her pedigreemark tenenbaum said:Thanks for the pictures-Any of those hiefers go back to the Studly female you bought from OLD WIERD HAROLD at the Deertrail sale?-I flushed Primos Lady-(the probable dam to your Studly female) to Studly at Trans Ova in 1999 and have what would be full sib embryos. O0