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Re: Uniform Herds
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2008, 07:40:30 PM »
if the calf is good, it is linebreeding; if the calf is bad, it is inbreeding.
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Re: Uniform Herds
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2019, 08:43:53 AM »
I ran across this old post. I was just thinking a couple days ago........my last 3 replacement female batches really look a like. Been breeding the Red Angus-Shorthorn composites for 10 years. The all go back to the Valient bull........sometimes 3 times in the pedigree. That doesn't make em good......it does make em consistent.
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Re: Uniform Herds
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2019, 08:31:57 AM »
The most uniform herds are the ones that set forth a course -dont vary much in type or statistics- and are heavily documented-Waukaru would have to be the most documented herd of almost any breed of cattle. And are not a closed herd-but introduce genetics that are complimentary and work based upon alot of reasearch along with good instincts. I was at the Jr Nationals briefly and got to talk with Toby Jordan-who for at least the past 15 years has been the formulator and disseminator of info -a force behind Waukaru. To say that he is VERY BRIGHT is  an understatement.Real straight forward and down to earth-pretty much like the program. We talked about Kieth Lauer-whos one of the great old school seat of the pants breeders from the age of no tech-His cattle are along the same lines:coming from his instincts and idea of what works- and have had a major influence on just about everyone Dale Allison would be a candidate for the lesser known thread-but had a cowherd that looked like full sibs-they have been "performance tested" since keeping records began.-Jungels is certainly another though they derive various types that are like peas in a pod-I always admired the way they mix mediums and still come up with very useful cattle-They think outside the box some and really make it work with different colors and breeds. Long and short-Its tough to have a completely uniform herd and produce show cattle-without linebreeding the show genetics-JMO-it can lead to cattle that dont perform or calve in a consistent manner -maybe in part due to the changing types and "fads" per se..If I were going to take a performance female and make show cattle with any thing thick Shorthorn Clubby, Maine, Simm etc.-It would be a thick Waukaru-THOSE cattle cross well with just about anything and change in one shot-without losing quality on both sides.Earlier or better known examples would be the Irish (loir valley?) Magics they had -which were some of the stoutest cattle around and for better or worse VORTEC- Hes out of Waukaru Wimple-sired by K A Shakedown-There was a bull by Shakedown called Waukaru First Down-who may have been a full sib or something-Darlee had him. Had a little shoulder but really did a good job for the pre Double Stuff era. O0
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