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Re: weaning weight
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2008, 07:50:30 AM »
Careful now RW...you might be accused of bashing someone!!! ;)

But I have to agree with you on the self feeder part also!!!  I like to see bulls developed hard, not flabby fat!!!
With some reported WW, those winter shows sure are a eye opener!!
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Re: weaning weight
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2008, 08:44:45 AM »
Rw- right on!!! I get a chuckle out of those huge WW and then those average YW!!
What is your best estimate on what a 900 pound WW should weigh at yearling?  1500? 1800?

And your right, there are a few good breeders in all breeds staying to the traditional traits while improving them!!


One of my senior herd sire weaned off at 805 and he had a yearling weight of 1520. I would assume that a 900# WW should be 1600#s plus, especialy the way some of the bulls are fed today. I'm not much of a fan of putting a self feeder out and letting them run to it until sale day but I know alot of people that do.

This may be a really stupid question, but doesn't that ruin a bull, I didn't think you wanted to push them that hard?

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Re: weaning weight
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2008, 08:50:36 AM »
I agree Jill, we try not to push our bulls too hard. That's why they don't make good show bulls but good herd/ production bulls.

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Re: weaning weight
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2008, 09:41:44 AM »
We really don't ever weigh our cows.  I'd guess most weight in the 1200-1400 lb range.  We calve in the fall, we don't creep feed calves, we don't implant, and our Sep/Oct steers wean off around 650 lbs at the end of June.  So, I guess our cows are weaning off +/- 50% of their weight at around eight/nine months old without any "help" other than grass and 4 lbs of corn cake/day per momma during the winter.  Our heaviest steer last year weighed 810 at weaning.

This is one area we are going to use our feedlot/carcass data to help us do some culling. 

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Re: weaning weight
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2008, 10:00:05 AM »
Rw- right on!!! I get a chuckle out of those huge WW and then those average YW!!
What is your best estimate on what a 900 pound WW should weigh at yearling?  1500? 1800?

And your right, there are a few good breeders in all breeds staying to the traditional traits while improving them!!


One of my senior herd sire weaned off at 805 and he had a yearling weight of 1520. I would assume that a 900# WW should be 1600#s plus, especialy the way some of the bulls are fed today. I'm not much of a fan of putting a self feeder out and letting them run to it until sale day but I know alot of people that do.

This may be a really stupid question, but doesn't that ruin a bull, I didn't think you wanted to push them that hard?

I think the whole self feeder program ruins more bulls than not. I know of one situation where bulls were fed on a self feeder last fall, a load of feed came in that was too hot and "cooked" the whole pen of bulls. This spring they got them all in for a serious hoof trimming session and sold them anyway. My bull that I refered to earlier could have easily went over 1600#s at YW if I had pushed him. He ultra sound scanned a back fat of 0.27 so he was a long way from being fat. I have seen some bulls scan over 1.9 back fat, way too fat for a breeding bull. I always worry about their feet when I see that. RW
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