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I think this guy deserves a paycheck from the gov't & an award!!!!

16 illegals sue Arizona rancher
Claim violation of rights as they crossed his land
Jerry Seper (Contact)
Monday, February 9, 2009

An Arizona man who has waged a 10-year campaign to stop a flood of illegal immigrants from crossing his property is being sued by 16 Mexican nationals who accuse him of conspiring to violate their civil rights when he stopped them at gunpoint on his ranch on the U.S.-Mexico border.

Roger Barnett, 64, began rounding up illegal immigrants in 1998 and turning them over to the U.S. Border Patrol, he said, after they destroyed his property, killed his calves and broke into his home.

His Cross Rail Ranch near Douglas, Ariz., is known by federal and county law enforcement authorities as "the avenue of choice" for immigrants seeking to enter the United States illegally.

Trial continues Monday in the federal lawsuit, which seeks $32 million in actual and punitive damages for civil rights violations, the infliction of emotional distress and other crimes. Also named are Mr. Barnett's wife, Barbara, his brother, Donald, and Larry Dever, sheriff in Cochise County, Ariz., where the Barnetts live. The civil trial is expected to continue until Friday.

The lawsuit is based on a March 7, 2004, incident in a dry wash on the 22,000-acre ranch, when he approached a group of illegal immigrants while carrying a gun and accompanied by a large dog.

Attorneys for the immigrants - five women and 11 men who were trying to cross illegally into the United States - have accused Mr. Barnett of holding the group captive at gunpoint, threatening to turn his dog loose on them and saying he would shoot anyone who tried to escape.

The immigrants are represented at trial by the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF), which also charged that Sheriff Dever did nothing to prevent Mr. Barnett from holding their clients at "gunpoint, yelling obscenities at them and kicking one of the women."

In the lawsuit, MALDEF said Mr. Barnett approached the group as the immigrants moved through his property, and that he was carrying a pistol and threatening them in English and Spanish. At one point, it said, Mr. Barnett's dog barked at several of the women and he yelled at them in Spanish, "My dog is hungry and he's hungry for buttocks."

The lawsuit said he then called his wife and two Border Patrol agents arrived at the site. It also said Mr. Barnett acknowledged that he had turned over 12,000 illegal immigrants to the Border Patrol since 1998.

In March, U.S. District Judge John Roll rejected a motion by Mr. Barnett to have the charges dropped, ruling there was sufficient evidence to allow the matter to be presented to a jury. Mr. Barnett's attorney, David Hardy, had argued that illegal immigrants did not have the same rights as U.S. citizens.

Mr. Barnett told The Washington Times in a 2002 interview that he began rounding up illegal immigrants after they started to vandalize his property, northeast of Douglas along Arizona Highway 80. He said the immigrants tore up water pumps, killed calves, destroyed fences and gates, stole trucks and broke into his home.

Some of his cattle died from ingesting the plastic bottles left behind by the immigrants, he said, adding that he installed a faucet on an 8,000-gallon water tank so the immigrants would stop damaging the tank to get water.

Mr. Barnett said some of the ranch´s established immigrant trails were littered with trash 10 inches deep, including human waste, used toilet paper, soiled diapers, cigarette packs, clothes, backpacks, empty 1-gallon water bottles, chewing-gum wrappers and aluminum foil - which supposedly is used to pack the drugs the immigrant smugglers give their "clients" to keep them running.

He said he carried a pistol during his searches for the immigrants and had a rifle in his truck "for protection" against immigrant and drug smugglers, who often are armed.


ASSOCIATED PRESS DEFENDANT: Roger Barnett said he had turned over 12,000 illegal immigrants to the Border Patrol since 1998.

A former Cochise County sheriff´s deputy who later was successful in the towing and propane business, Mr. Barnett spent $30,000 on electronic sensors, which he has hidden along established trails on his ranch. He searches the ranch for illegal immigrants in a pickup truck, dressed in a green shirt and camouflage hat, with his handgun and rifle, high-powered binoculars and a walkie-talkie.

His sprawling ranch became an illegal-immigration highway when the Border Patrol diverted its attention to several border towns in an effort to take control of the established ports of entry. That effort moved the illegal immigrants to the remote areas of the border, including the Cross Rail Ranch.

"This is my land. I´m the victim here," Mr. Barnett said. "When someone´s home and loved ones are in jeopardy and the government seemingly can´t do anything about it, I feel justified in taking matters into my own hands. And I always watch my back."

 

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His dog should be registered as a sexual predator, for craving female buttocks!

                                                        (dog)
 

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How can illegal immigrants that are trespassing on private property have the right to sue???  Makes no sense.
 

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Jason said:
How can illegal immigrants that are trespassing on private property have the right to sue???  Makes no sense.

how can terrorists and those captured on the battlefield have miranda rights?

americans have no rights or any groups to represent them compared to non-white race based pressure groups such as

maldef, at least two members appointed to obama's cabinet
la raza (literal translation, the race)
naacp

folks, you just don't realize it's soon over.  the most interesting thing will be the racism of the future and protections against it if any.

remember, in the stimulus bill, the government is going to HIRE illegal aliens through contractors, but please, don't call your elected officials, they can't be bothered with your interests.

besides, your're racist.
 

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knabe said:
Jason said:
How can illegal immigrants that are trespassing on private property have the right to sue???  Makes no sense.

how can terrorists and those captured on the battlefield have miranda rights?

americans have no rights or any groups to represent them compared to non-white race based pressure groups such as

maldef, at least two members appointed to obama's cabinet
la raza (literal translation, the race)
naacp

folks, you just don't realize it's soon over.  the most interesting thing will be the racism of the future and protections against it if any.

remember, in the stimulus bill, the government is going to HIRE illegal aliens through contractors, but please, don't call your elected officials, they can't be bothered with your interests.

besides, your're racist.
What else can we do????  I don't care if they don't listen, we good folks, HAVE TO be heard, or you may be right, the good days are just about over!!  We've all been guilty of being polite and sitting back too long . . . just hope and pray its not too late.
 

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What else can we do????  I don't care if they don't listen, we good folks, HAVE TO be heard, or you may be right, the good days are just about over!!  We've all been guilty of being polite and sitting back too long . . . just hope and pray its not too late.
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i call my two senators, and representative EVERY DAY, literally EVERY DAY.

i buy books for people.  it takes about 2-4 years to get people to consider there are other issues at stake other than abortion, which is the number one reason people don't vote republican, at least for women.

http://www.amazon.com/Liberal-Fascism-American-Mussolini-Politics/dp/0385511841

this book is a decent start, as it basically chronicles the inception of the progressive movement with extensive references.

the left likes to use words like facists and republicans in the same breath, but it's clear the left has just as much in common if not more with mussolini, hitler and stalin, mao etc than republicans.  liberalism is no longer about individual liberty, but group liberty at the expense of the individual, because you know, only they know what's good for everyone all the time.

get ready for lines.
 

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Jason said:
How can illegal immigrants that are trespassing on private property have the right to sue???  Makes no sense.

That's what I don't understand about this whole thing. Even taking the "on private property part" out of the picture, how can an ILLEGAL immigrant sue in our court system at all? I mean shouldn't they be arrested & exported when they show up at the courthouse? 
 

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Doc said:
I mean shouldn't they be arrested & exported when they show up at the courthouse? 

there's actually case law that is in the process that states there is no actual law to be in the US illegally.  but, here's the supposed penalties.

Penalties for illegal immigrants:
l Unlawful entry: A criminal misdemeanor subject to six months in prison. Up to two years in prison for subsequent offenses.
l Unlawful re-entry after deportation: A felony, up to 10 years in prison.
l Overstaying visas: A civil violation. Ineligible to return to the United States for at least three years for overstays of more than six months. Barred from returning for at least 10 years for overstays of more than a year

only employers get fined, why not illegals to cover enforcement and incarceration costs?

oh, i forgot, it's racist, as 75% of all illegals are latino, and 80% of all violent crime is illegal aliens.  oops, that's profiling.

when was the last time you can remember that your elected official actually represented you on anything?

do you have their number on your cell phone?  didn't think so.
 

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knabe said:
Jason said:
How can illegal immigrants that are trespassing on private property have the right to sue???  Makes no sense.

how can terrorists and those captured on the battlefield have miranda rights?

americans have no rights or any groups to represent them compared to non-white race based pressure groups such as

maldef, at least two members appointed to obama's cabinet
la raza (literal translation, the race)
naacp

folks, you just don't realize it's soon over.  the most interesting thing will be the racism of the future and protections against it if any.

remember, in the stimulus bill, the government is going to HIRE illegal aliens through contractors, but please, don't call your elected officials, they can't be bothered with your interests.

besides, your're racist.

actually you'd be an anti union racist...will labor let this happen> have we finally found something unions may be good for>>? ......... 22,000 acres...one dog and a gun...thats a lot of land to get in that much trouble in.jbarl
 

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the size of the land is not the issue.

so's hows about we have a party at jbarl's house, except jbarl's not invited, only illegal aliens and the government with handouts for everyone.

government needs new laws to generate revenue.  it's a growth industry.
 

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have we finally found something unions may be good for>>?
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If that is the case , then that will be the 1st thing I've seen that a union is good for.
 

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Doc said:

have we finally found something unions may be good for>>?

If that is the case , then that will be the 1st thing I've seen that a union is good for.

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youve seen it ....youi just havent recogonized it yet ....you will when the republicans want to "organize" illegals to work here.....organized labor wont allow that, if they can help it...will you?....are you going to  ask your party not to support such nonsense??...alot of folks " amercinasim " is going to be pitted against there "republiciansim"....organized labor is the only tool americans have to get rid of illegal's who are here to work.....yoiu will soon be asked which way you want to go....amercian labor ...or  exceptable "illegal alien" labor...no smoke and mirrors here....just crunch time...you all in or out?...jbarl
 

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JbarL said:
Doc said:

have we finally found something unions may be good for>>?

If that is the case , then that will be the 1st thing I've seen that a union is good for.
All I know is that in my lifetime , I've seen & heard personaly more  bad from unions than good.

youve seen it ....youi just havent recogonized it yet ....you will when the republicans want to "organize" illegals to work here.....organized labor wont allow that, if they can help it...will you?....are you going to  ask your party not to support such nonsense??...alot of folks " amercinasim " is going to be pitted against there "republiciansim"....organized labor is the only tool americans have to get rid of illegal's who are here to work.....yoiu will soon be asked which way you want to go....amercian labor ...or  exceptable "illegal alien" labor...no smoke and mirrors here....just crunch time...you all in or out?...jbarl
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i want to go be on the barnett ranch patrol. would be alot less reports of immigrants getting turned in....
 
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