Who are the Best Clubby Type Bulls that can also make Replacement Females?

I would like to start a controversial topic  (argue)  that I hope will provoke a lively and POSITIVE & CONSTRUCTIVE discussion  (angel) .  The topic question is... ???

What Proven "Clubby Type" A.I. Bull for producing Champion Steers, (if any), can also produce Excellent Club Calf Replacement Females?  (pop)

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who made who

+ 1 on WMW

Who Made Who is probably gonna be at the top of my list to...and I know he didnt really ever produce a lot of great steers, but I have really liked the Foreplay daughters I have seen and the way they have produced and raised calves.

isn't this topic going to be like the pot calling the kettle black? 

Can an apple, be an orange? 

IMO, any high percentage maine/ angus/ or shorhorn clubby bull has just as good of a chance accidentally making a good replacement heifer as the rest of them.  It all depends on how maternal the cow is bred?

Agree with WMW.  From experience I would add All About You, we've bred them back to Ali and they made good calves.

WMW really did not become popular as a female maker until recent when people started using him on good angus and simangus cows. I remember when he first came out he was strictly a terminal bull, seen a lot of cripples out of him, his son Hannibal seems to make decent females, Witch Doctor, Cigar, and Foreplay all work great. most of the Champion heat seekers there for a while were out of foreplay cows. a bull I feel is underrated is NFL, throws thick calves, the knock on him is he is pha and doesn't throw a lot of hair, but his daughters make nice cows.

Doctor Who.  IMO all the maternal of WMW without the structure issues.
Would also agree with All About You, don't have many but the few are pretty good. 

Dr. Who

Dr Who, Full Flush, Jack Frost, Ground zero

Who Made Who, Dr. who, Alias ( ill get arguments on alias but a sound alias cow is awesome in my opinion) I am a huge far of char influenced females. Yellow Jacket, Troubador, i think Choppim wood females will work because I have seen his dam and she is not a typical HW daughter she is looks like a huge boned Anchor daughter. Hannibal when used on a deep bodied cow will make beautiful choke fronted females.

i will have to second alias, i love my alias cow friendly as can be, and worked really well with carpe diem! no structure issues that are major the calf has a little twist in its front leg thats it.
monopoly i think is another good one, doctor who, friction, full flush, eye candy

Wondering who out there might have some Monopoly and Eye Candy daughters in production. 

Monopoly is bred differently than most Heat Wave sons in that his dam is a PB Angus.

Eye Candy is bred differently than most other "Clubby Bulls" because his dam goes back to a Galloway, I believe.

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Dr. Who,wmw, and I know it says proven but what about I-80

Heatwave

I will 2nd Foreplay and Witch Dr , both have flat out worked well for me .

Anyone Double Stuff? or Chiller? O0

mark tenenbaum said:

Anyone Double Stuff? or Chiller? O0

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Mark, I would second that motion... ALM Chiller for sure...

I was thinking like Dr. who, Alias, Hired Man, Tiger Woods, and Bojo seems to be kicking some good heifers.

Sunseeker,  got a few and love em