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Wide Range Heifer
« on: July 28, 2017, 08:09:20 PM »
Just want to get some thoughts on what bull would you use one this heifer? She is Wide Range daughter out of a Upgrade cow. I feel she needs some softness and some drop to her lower 1/3 and clean up her shoulder a bit. Was thinking maybe Swinger or northern made 10D....or just use a low birth weight Angus bull in the tank. What's your thoughts?
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Re: Wide Range Heifer
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2017, 09:29:58 PM »
Colburn Primo it Gargans Low BW Simm bull O0

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Re: Wide Range Heifer
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2017, 09:25:56 PM »
Insight or the answer or final answer

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Re: Wide Range Heifer
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2017, 01:10:03 PM »
 Mark, would you use primo on a first calf heifer?

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Re: Wide Range Heifer
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2017, 03:02:08 PM »
It depends on what you want to do with her. She's not bad looking, just plain. If you wanted to jazz her up some via Angus I'd go Insight or Blue Chip. Simmental, I'd look at Optimizer, or One Eyed Jack (many others to choose from as well).

Gargans bull Red Revolver certainly has the pedigree, I haven't seen any recent pics but the early calves looked good. I'm sure he will add his opinion on RR soon.

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Re: Wide Range Heifer
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2017, 03:52:31 PM »
Mark, would you use primo on a first calf heifer?///// Im not an Angus expert-but I;m assuming he isnt a bad calver-it depends upon your heifer-Simms-like Shorthorns tend to have bigger calves as a rule-so a 50-60 pound calf might end up a runt-maybe an Angus person will come on and straighten me out-like the looks of him tho-I mean there are a TON of CE bulls. O0

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Re: Wide Range Heifer
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2017, 06:45:40 AM »
Since she's most likely got the growth numbers from Upgrade and WR, she would probably give you a good calf out of Uno Mas. He also has sorted heifer semen available. W/C Lock Down is another one I've really liked the calves out of, MM is a bit low if you're a number cruncher. If you're looking for maternal value and sorted heifer semen, ST genetics has sorted heifer semen available on Hook's Blackhawk and TJ Northward..
Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy cattle and that's pretty much the same thing as far as I'm concerned!

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Re: Wide Range Heifer
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2017, 07:44:00 AM »
Here's a screenshot of her pedigree and epds

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Re: Wide Range Heifer
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2017, 12:03:55 PM »
Are you looking to make a show calf or breeding stock?
Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy cattle and that's pretty much the same thing as far as I'm concerned!

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Re: Wide Range Heifer
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2017, 06:57:53 PM »
Simmgal have you seen any black hawk calves?

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Re: Wide Range Heifer
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2017, 07:44:15 PM »
Well I'd like to make the potential calf a show calf prospect but in the end I want a animal that can perform in the field. We want to raise animals that can perform in the ring but go out to the pasture and raise us calves.

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Re: Wide Range Heifer
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2017, 06:40:43 PM »
Since you are productio oriented i would look at Hooks Beacon for a calving ease Simmental:http://origenbeef.org/semen_detail.php?bull=544
For an angus if your heifers own performance reflectes her EDPD you may wan to consider HF Tiget 5T: http://hamiltonfarms.ca/our-herdsires/

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Re: Wide Range Heifer
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2017, 09:09:47 AM »
Simmgal have you seen any black hawk calves?

I'll have some in a few months. There were some really nice daughters that topped their sale back in the spring.
Money can't buy happiness, but it can buy cattle and that's pretty much the same thing as far as I'm concerned!

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Re: Wide Range Heifer
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2017, 07:01:06 PM »
Simmgal have you seen any black hawk calves?

I'll have some in a few months. There were some really nice daughters that topped their sale back in the spring.

are you talking about the Wild West sale?

 

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