Steer Planet - Show Steers and Club Calves Forum

Use of these bulls, and any others, depends on what you have for cows and what you want in your herd.  In my opinion, Raw Hide would add depth and fleshing ability.  If you wanted a little more show ring style, perhaps the Hot Commodity son would do the job.  I've seen some pretty decent Marquis offspring, but am not too familiar with Deliverance.  There are lots of other options besides these bulls.

I am interested in easy calving bulls consistently producing moderate framed, fertile, functional, good footed females that can perform in a grass, hay (Bahia) and mineral environment on the Alabama Gulf Coast with longevity.  The cattle are starting to take the shape of a line bred blend of Shadybrook Scotty and Wakaru Goldmine 2109 with Rob Sneed breeding becoming part of the blend.

As for the commment on the Proud Jazz stuff I have limited experience.  The only experience I have is with a JSF Capiche calf.  It  was built great but a too small framed with very little growth.

From the description of what you want, I would second the motion of Rawhide.

I have not used the bulls you are looking at with the exception of our own, but here is my $.02 worth.

A few years ago I visited Dale Studer to have a look at his Saskvalley Tradition calves.  His sale catalog was being finished that day so I got the quick tour, which was very understandable.  Dale took me to the show barn and then to see JSF Marquis 127, which he was very high on.  Dale had just sold 100 straws of semen on Marquis to a major breeder, who cares a lot about eye appeal.  Marquis is the bull out of your 4 that is a different tool to use--he is a growth bull and the other three are more moderate.  Marquis is the most proven sire, but the other 3 are genomic tested, which gives some indication.  Why not use 2 or 3 or even all four to sample what works well in your environment?

Some traits are antagonistic, so the long suit of growth for Marquis may reflect in a few of his EPD's in a negative way, like about any other growth bull.  While Marquis was in his working clothes and did not impress me as huge, he certainly is a performance bull, which is evident from some of the breeders who have used him.  Like any good bull, match him or the other 3 with the right cows for the best results.  All 4 look like bulls, which is the way it is supposed to be.  A masculine bull sires feminine females, so it is win-win.

I've compared and contrasted the 4 bulls you are considering--you have some continuity in your choices.  JSF, Muridale, and Bar N are all top notch breeding programs!  Just to be safe breed Marquis only to cows and the other 3 might all be suitable for heifers or cows.  These 4 bulls range from well above average to excellent in $BMI, which is one of the best ways to keep Shorthorns a great maternal breed.  Please post some feedback when your calves have dropped.

Hey Medium Rare any pictures of progeny out of him? thanks

Hey Phiiesi sorry bout the spelling-Looking at the bull and how hes bred-I like a little outcross-The Canadian Marquis blood -Or Homeplace Hot commodity-I can tell you I more or less saw most of the cattle in Deertrail Buckshots pedigree(sire of the Shadybrooke bull of your cow)  Buckshot ran with a bull calf of mine (I had a herd with DTR) till they both sold Really good cattle then and now if you put it in perspective-So are those two bulls both of which come from decades of performance breeding I HAVE TO SAY DALES (HOMEPLACE) CATTLE ARE THE MOST DOCUMENTED ANIMALS IN YOUR LIST-I just saw another picture of a young heifer from Homeplace HC-SHE IS VERY GOOD CONTINUES THE SOLID RED DEAL-AND HER SIRE WOULD REALLY COMPLEMENT THE BREEDING OF THE CATTLE YOU HAVE MENTIONED-PICTURED RE THEIR GENERAL SIZE AND MAKEUP  AND OR AS I HAVE PREVIOUSLY STATED GOOD CANADIAN BLOOD