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Okay. Tell you what, then, just pick ANY solution, ANYTHING, and actually implement it. The breed has had many many years to take action and has not. It's here to stay. And history, not you or I, will judge the breed and its leaders. I've got a pretty good idea what that's going to look like...

Not ineffective. Unwanted yes, ineffective no. It's the least invasive, leads aggressive solution to slowly eliminate the carrier genes from the population. From all of this the picture is clear. The breed values defect genes. It's here to stay. Without the show ring industry what would the...

I have heard it said that the role of the purebred breeder is to provide bulls to the commercial man. And I've also been told that few purebred breeding operations can be honestly profitable unless they have a market to sell a good percentage of their bulls. If 50 percent of your annual calf...

Oh no, I fully realize you guys are capable of far worse. I've read enough on this forum over the years to be well aware of that. I've seen what happens to people who dare to run the gauntlet. This is an open forum and people are invited to post topics as they wish. You may think that your...

Librarian, there are no rival beef breeds. The real competition is pork and chicken, not each other. I appreciate your wish for good luck but I am sure we both agree that good management and good decision making are the key ingredients for success.

Librarian, your aggression, bullying and intimidation doesn't work. This forum isn't some street corner that you can control. If you have a problem with my postings, questions or comments please contact the people who actually own this site and take it up with them. I am sure they will contact...

Librarian, my understanding is that this forum does not require the participants to be pre-qualified. It's open to all. Regardless, I will respond. Breeding goals? To briefly summarize, my goal is to engage only in those activities that contribute value to my breed, my customers and my fellow...

I think it would be an overreaction for the ASA to deny registrations of carrier animals. Breeders should be allowed to propagate them, register them, show them and sell them. The one exception would be bulls. I would make it mandatory for all bulls to be tested prior to registration and if they...

The Galloway breed, without the modern DNA tools of today, made a decision years ago to eliminate every known carrier and their progeny from their herd book. A very aggressive, take all the pain, upfront decision designed to eradicate these defective genes. It seems to me they took action using...

Are you suggesting AJ that a separate registry should be created for all carriers? And a show of their very own also? Interesting concept but not sure if it is realistic? I don't how many carriers win or don't win in the show ring but the apparent passion for preserving these genetic defect...

It appears the choice is clear. Either let the individual breeders manage the genetic defect issues on their own and allow them to sort it all out. Or, the ASA takes control of it and implements a solution designed to protect the integrity of the herd book and the image of the breed. I suppose...

Mark, you have misrepresented this quote. Where did all this come from???

Libra, yes, they could jack the registration fee to $1000 but unfortunately that wouldn't bother many of the breeds top show calf producers. That's lunch money to them. Instead, these rich and very successful breeders should actually be leading the way to do what's right for a breed that's been...

Huntaway, I see your point but a problem is a problem; not an opportunity. And until these genetic defects in shorthorns are considered a problem and not opportunities nothing will change. You are probably very correct that new defects will be discovered over time. This is also why it makes...

Are there any experts on this site who can explain what their shorthorn association policy is on managing the growing number of genetic defects within the breed? The USA seems to look away and won't meet the challenge head on and Canada follows?? What about Australia and other countries? Buying...

Doc, I sincerely respect your view and your loyalty to a fellow breeder but I don't think it was unfair to ask if the photos have been electronically cropped or altered. It's becoming a worrisome trend I think.  And Justintime is obviously a very honest man and was classy to tolerate my direct...

Justintime, Not trying to be confrontational here but may I ask if you are working for hill haven and representing them for compensation? I think it's important to be transparent and it is a fair question based on your unbridled recommendation of their cattle. Thank you.

Justintime have you personally seen the sale offering? Or, are you commenting based on the electronic pictures being promoted? Thanks

I'm not putting all livestock photographers down but the practice of altering pictures is becoming a problem I think.