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When the sire test started each bull was used on 20 cows through timed A.I. If 50% conception was achieved then each bull would have a minimum of 10 offspring. The problem then becomes that 1/2 are bulls and 1/2 heifers. Therefore, 5 in each group. Then the problem becomes that some bulls have...

I have also had discussions about Rb eagle 148th and 255th. I have been told these bulls expressed a different Myostatin variant. I have never used any of these genetics, but the believed culprit was said to be Chuck O Luck Real Silver. Again none of this is confirmed.

So your contention is that it goes back to Ideal 69F's dam? Has anyone ever tested Gafa Mochican? I have to admit Mochican sure looks like a carrier..... I was told he was extremely heavily muscled and really orange in color. I have no idea and I'm not on a witch hunt.  I will say that I asked...

I have always been told that his maternal grand sire GAFA Mochican was the starting point. About 3-4 years ago I contacted the American Shorthorn Association about listing myostatin as a genetic defect. I still have the email, but basically the board stated that it WOULD NOT be listing it as a...

Thanks Mark. Challenger has done a great job thus far. He does seem to be moderating BW, while not giving up much in terms of performance. I agree that with time his EPDs will adjust to fall more in line with what we are experiencing. I need to send in his DNA to get genomic epds. He was slated...

Attached you will find Saskvalley Imperative's numbers in the IGS system. This run must be a little old as his EPDs are not up to date. I believe that all the sires from the sire test have been put in the IGS system. One thing I have pushed for is the implementation of the API index in...

Unfortunately, the idea of comparing breeds to each other on the same cow base is not going to happen. That was the first question that I asked when we began this sire test. I wanted to get other breeds involved, and compare progeny. Here is the reality. Angus has the market share and has...

I have attached the entire sire summary for both bulls and heifers of the 2017-2018 ASA sire test. I also have the RFI numbers, but that file is way to large to get loaded and still needs some editing to make it easier to read. The first thing Dr. Shike told us when we went into this venture...

The cost was based on cows inseminated. Not on the number of live calves. U of I came up with this cost. I never received a break down. The cattle belong to the university, and receive all profits/ losses. If Shorthorns don't utilize this opportunity other breeds are waiting in line to take...

Brock, I was responsible for getting the ASA sire test program going. When I was chair of the Shorthorn plus committee I approached the U of I after Simmental and Charolais had done similar tests. I think it would be rude to discuss actual numbers, but lets just agree it was more than 20k and...

I think when you say top 5 power bulls in the breed this guy has to be in the discussion. Saskvalley Imperative 33X. Exceptional growth, WW and YW trait leader, and top 25% REA., He sires bulls that look like bulls, and females that look like cows. Out of 16 progeny in the ASA sire test he sired...

We used Yesterday the first year he was available and have coming 3 year old cows, bred heifers, and yearling cattle all sired by him. We have been very pleased with the results, but I can confidently say he will not add depth. He will add muscle, marbling, and performance. I will attach a...

Saskvalley Imperative 33x. I think he checks a lot of the boxes. Look him up on the ASA website and form your own opinion.

Thanks Barry. I know at least one Saskvalley bull will be represented. It was also my suggestion for this to be a joint venture between the ASA and Canadian association, but with time restrictions that was not an option. Maybe if a second year of trials takes place it is something to consider.

Josh I wasn't trying to be defensive. I'm sorry if I came across that way. I'm simply stating that based on the integrity of the firms asked, and the data they submit to this point I see no relivance in what " others" are submitting. Why as a breeder would you pay and submit semen on a bull that...

As I stated earlier the talks started mid May and we had to let U of I know within 30-45 days. If you received a letter I consider that contact. No specific Bulls were asked to join, just the owners of such Bulls. Once again the ASA reserves the right to not accept a bull, so if he doesn't fit...

That's what I'm getting at. The project design really only verifies what is already known- what universities do best. So it is just advertising for marketing certain sires- that work for certain things. Will it really sell beef or create a market? CAB is a business model that is attached to a...

For the record I bred Kaper 4508 and have never been contacted by anyone from the ASA. I know Lovings have been contacted and Marty is aware of the trial. Doesn't he own 4508? The other comment I have is that these are being bred to angus cows for fall calves. We all know the calves will be...

Josh I thought I made this clear when we talked, but one of the requirements is that a bull must be above breed average for BW epd, and at least 50% accuracy. And all participating Bulls need the new 150k genomic test. At least that is what Jake and I discussed. Now that he has moved on I'm not...

After some thought I decided to "clear the air" about this sire test. As the person that got the ball rolling so to speak I think it is important to state all the information and facts. Additionally, I will add my opinion in regards to the cost. In mid May I contacted the U of I after I learned...