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Offline Sizzler14

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Re: Breeding .??
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2013, 06:38:25 PM »
ok so this has always puzzled me.. exactly how long after a cow has her calf can she get bred again?? I know it's a silly question but still.
Really its a cow to cow basis. Some cows are really fertile and will stick first time they cycle back. I like to see a cow cycle once and then breed her on her 2nd cycle. Depending on how early that first cycle is, we usually back them up a few weeks or keep them around the same time. This is a case when we are highly satisfied when she is calving. When backing a cow up, I have gave them lut at 20 days and whenever they cycle we double straw (8 hours and 12 hours) and we have had a really good catching rate. But on cows we are pleased with when they are calving, we have a 20-25% higher conception rate waiting to that second cycle. (This is just what we have seen in our cows, a lot of herds are different thats why it is a case by case).

Also, We calve our heifers at 23-25 months

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Re: Breeding .??
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2013, 08:56:36 PM »
mine is an early april. when should i breed her

U need to decide when u want her to calve... Personally, I don't do summer calves, and I consider April summer when it comes to calving seasons. If she's big enough and she's cycling, there's no reason you can't breed her earlier if you'd rather have her calve earlier in the spring.
« Last Edit: March 18, 2013, 07:29:11 AM by leanbeef »

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« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2013, 09:04:01 PM »
okay sounds good
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Re: Breeding .??
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2013, 09:25:12 PM »
will breeding her too early not let her stick?

How old are you?  If I knew, I might be able to understand why you can't pay attention to what others have to say.

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Re: Breeding .??
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2013, 09:27:19 PM »
The best is to use a gestation table, figure when you would like he/them to calve and then look at the respective breeding date.  I always start a month early because you can't just chose when they come into heat an you can take note of her cycles ahead of time.   You could also implant a CIDR to bring her/them in at a certain time.  Below is a like to a gestation table.

http://www.bovine-elite.com/gest.asp
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Re: Breeding .??
« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2013, 09:46:51 PM »
i have used a cidr before and it did not work
« Last Edit: March 18, 2013, 11:09:38 AM by OH Breeder »
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Re: Breeding .??
« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2013, 10:20:33 PM »
will breeding her too early not let her stick?

How old are you?  If I knew, I might be able to understand why you can't pay attention to what others have to say.


It's no use.....we already tried. Still taking no suggestions or spelling hints. And still hijacks every thread.

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Re: Breeding .??
« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2013, 10:24:15 PM »
will breeding her too early not let her stick?

How old are you?  If I knew, I might be able to understand why you can't pay attention to what others have to say.


It's no use.....we already tried. Still taking no suggestions or spelling hints. And still hijacks every thread.
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Re: Breeding .??
« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2013, 10:24:40 PM »
mine is an early april. when should i breed her

U need to decide when u want her to calve... Personally, I don't do summer calves, and I consider April summer when it comes to calving seasons. If she's big enough and she's cycling, there's not reason you can't breed her earlier if you'd rather have her calve earlier in the spring.

Carlson - lean beef is not saying go breed your April heifer tomorrow, don't make that molehill into a mountain as your que to go breed her tonight for a December calf


will breeding her too early not let her stick?

How old are you?  If I knew, I might be able to understand why you can't pay attention to what others have to say.


It's no use.....we already tried. Still taking no suggestions or spelling hints. And still hijacks every thread.
you hit the nail square on the head with that

i have used a cidr before and it hasent worked
then you did something wrong
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Re: Breeding .??
« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2013, 10:07:47 AM »
i have used a cidr before and it hasent worked

Who bred her?  What protocol did you use? Did she show signs of heat?

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Re: Breeding .??
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2013, 10:17:12 AM »
will breeding her too early not let her stick?

How old are you?  If I knew, I might be able to understand why you can't pay attention to what others have to say.


I believe he said on another post that he was 14. He doesn't read through all responses. He wants to learn but needs to slow the hamster down and pay attention to what people tell him.

My AI man will not AI past the end of June. He says that conception rates go down. This is coming from someone that does a few thousand head a year so he knows what he is doing. CIDRs do work but if the cow was in the first few days or almost ready to come into heat they will not work.

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Re: Breeding .??
« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2013, 12:48:52 PM »
will breeding her too early not let her stick?

How old are you?  If I knew, I might be able to understand why you can't pay attention to what others have to say.


I believe he said on another post that he was 14. He doesn't read through all responses. He wants to learn but needs to slow the hamster down and pay attention to what people tell him.

My AI man will not AI past the end of June. He says that conception rates go down. This is coming from someone that does a few thousand head a year so he knows what he is doing. CIDRs do work but if the cow was in the first few days or almost ready to come into heat they will not work.

The CIDR itself may not be "work" in those cases but the GNRH and PGF2 alphas play a role then. 

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Re: Breeding .??
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2013, 02:36:12 PM »
will breeding her too early not let her stick?

How old are you?  If I knew, I might be able to understand why you can't pay attention to what others have to say.


I believe he said on another post that he was 14. He doesn't read through all responses. He wants to learn but needs to slow the hamster down and pay attention to what people tell him.

My AI man will not AI past the end of June. He says that conception rates go down. This is coming from someone that does a few thousand head a year so he knows what he is doing. CIDRs do work but if the cow was in the first few days or almost ready to come into heat they will not work.

thank you
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