I think it is important to point out that the carcass info you provided does not include any of the actual data collected this spring. Therefore I have attached that info. Additionally, 106 for a BW is to high, but his progeny have not reflected those BW figures, and he is in fact in the top 30% for BW and top 25% of the breed for CED. When we bought 33x we talked to anyone and everyone that had brought high BW cattle in from Canada, and more importantly to the Lehmans at Saskvalley. What they all said is true.... Calves come like snakes, have great vigor, and will not weigh what they weighed in Canada. I cut the high BW Bulls, but haven't found anyone yet that doesn't find our 85 lb BW average acceptable.
Josh people are buying what I am selling because my cattle meet their demand. I have yet to find a commercial cattleman that will accept your Bulls weaning and yearling performance. Not being mean just honest. Additionally, my cattle are better phenotypically, and that I believe is where Renegade falls short. Again just my honest opinion. You could argue that a combination of our Bulls is what the breed needs, but that bull doesn't exist. I will continue to raise the cattle that I like and can sell, and you do the same. No harm done, just good discussion. That is how me make progress!
I would like to point out the 503 heifer is a Saskvalley yesterday not a 33x.