NCAA Football upsets

My MIZZOU tigers took down the Georgia Dawgs on the road 41 to 26, can only see MIZZOU ranked #25 going way up. Then Texas takes down Oklahoma. My biggest laugh was is listening to people saying Missouri didn't belong in the SEC, they could not compete, well not saying they are going to win the SEC East. But they are definitely looking to make a good bowl game show they can compete and do belong!!

I had to duct tape the iphone next to the gps in the tractor to watch the box score today.  (thumbsup)

Penn St. takes down Michigan
Utah takes down Stanford
Wisconsin takes down Northwestern (not an upset in my mind, but according to rankings it was)

Big M - I wouldn't be bragging just yet, even though I HATE the SEC.  How many times has Mizzou been on probation, or banned from post season? How many times have they been investigated? (See my point?) 

The best upset was Penn State. You could tell these guys just wanted it more than Michigan. That freshman quarterback is going to be something sooner rather than later.

BTDT said:

Big M - I wouldn't be bragging just yet, even though I HATE the SEC.  How many times has Mizzou been on probation, or banned from post season? How many times have they been investigated? (See my point?) 

The best upset was Penn State. You could tell these guys just wanted it more than Michigan. That freshman quarterback is going to be something sooner rather than later.

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Not bragging, saying that Mizzou is better than people gave them credit for. They will compete and I believe that they will give Florida a run for their money this week in Missouri. Yes they have been investigated in the past, that is not going to affect them now, believe the last time they were banned from a post season was in Basketball in 2005. Just think its funny reading posts that say Mizzou could not compete in the SEC, Love the SEC or hate it, not afraid to say it is the toughest division in the NCAA hands down.

Upsets are nothing new in college football or any sport for that matter.  I am most amused that the "experts" are so often wrong.  As for Penn State over Michigan, I was impressed with the Wolverine's win over Notre Dame.  I thought they showed as much team speed, both offensively and defensively, as any team I had seen for a long time in the Big Ten, maybe ever.  Then I remembered they were playing Notre Dame.  The classic over rated, feet in the mud college football team.  Anybody remember the Alabama game last season?  I've often wondered how Notre Dame can have a top 20 recruiting class every year and finish 7-5.  Michigan should have been beaten by Akron.  Who?  Michigan was favored over Penn State, but it should not be considered an upset of the magnitude of Appalachian State over Michigan, Iowa State over Oklahoma State, etc.  Did I see Missouri's QB is out for the season?  That might make things a little tougher.   

Yes, Franklin has a grade 2 separated shoulder that CBS reported he would miss the remaining 6 games of the season. Tigers head coach Pinkel stated that was false and is saying he will miss at least a couple weeks, beyond that it is unknown which still sucks as the next 2 weeks were big at home against Florida and South Carolina. Our red shirt freshman Mauk will get a shot and he is suppose to be the real deal down the road, so we will see. Still comes at a bad time no matter if he misses 2 weeks or more.

I would like to have seen a healthy Mizzou against Florida and South Carolina, if they hadn't been plagued with problem injuries last year, I think they would have made their arrival known as well. 

A&M coming in the first year and beating the #1 team in the SEC at home, and being in every other game should have quieted the conference groupies. 

If it is so much better than any other conference, why was A&M able to do what they did? 

Conferences will be up and down.  If LSU had played Ok State 2 years ago, they would have lost.  And no, the cowboys aren't any good currently. 

Last year, Notre Dame was over rated.  Alabama was very good- yes.

I think the Pac12 may be the best conference this year, but who cares.

I really can't wait for a play off system.  I love college football, but hate how much the polls affect it. 

That's my take and worth what you paid for it.

If it is so much better than any other conference, why was A&M able to do what they did? 

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They beat the Big XII co-champion by four touchdowns.

But let's act like it was the same A&M team from 2011.

A&M was a better team than 2011, but they still played the same big 12 style of football that they had.  Mizzu is doing it this year with the same football style they played in the big 12.  They are showing anyone outside of the sec that on a week in and week out schedule that style of play will do a lot of winning in any conference.  But don't kid yourself the SEC is hands down the best conference this year. 

Jeff_Schroeder said:

If it is so much better than any other conference, why was A&M able to do what they did? 

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They beat the Big XII co-champion by four touchdowns.

But let's act like it was the same A&M team from 2011.

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Nope they aren't the same team. 

But they walked in and more than competed in the conference and that is the point.  Look at all the trash talking before they came, and then the lack of it now.  There is no super conference.  I find it funny how people are so caught up on conferences.  It is pure hype, a lot of it is pushed by the east coast media to affect post season play. 

I wish Mizzou QB had remained healthy so they could continue to hand out the arse whoopins as well. 

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  But don't kid yourself the SEC is hands down the best conference this year. 

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Pretty sure that any SEC team that had to play Oregon, UCLA, Stanford and even Washington wouldn't like it.  Alabama doesn't want any part of Oregon this year. 

They shellacked Tennessee who gave Georgia trouble and was within 14 of Florida. 

Washington St even gave Auburn all they wanted at home.

Anyway, hope you all enjoy chanting for a conference  : 

Sorry but Auburn sucks, so using them to try to prove a point isn't saying much.  Bama, LSU, A&M, Mizzu, South Caralina, Florida, > Oregon, Washington, UCLA, Stanford.  Sorry but untill proven different the SEC is top dog.  I PRAY someone else can beat them this year in the NC or they dont even go at all.  KSU, Oregon, ND all had a chance to end the SEC reign but couldn't.  Hope someone can this year but only time will tell. 

When was the last time?

As a Mizzou Alum., my duration at the university was from 2005-2009 and then til 2012 with my Masters Degree and not 1 time were they under investigation. You, just like everyone in the sports world do not give Missouri sports a fair shake including Stl. Cardinals, KC Chiefs, etc.....think about it right now. After going up 3 games to 1, the Stl. Cardinals being 1 game away from the world series. Sportscenter and any other national sports show, all they talk about is the LA Dodgers and their lineup and how dinamic they are...NEWS FLASH! They are about to get eliminated!!! But this is just my 2 cents. Mizzou football is still building and yes they got a good win on the road at Georgia. Lets see if they are the real deal when they face Florida and South Carolina the next two weeks. If they beat both of them, then try to tell me they are not the real deal.  <rock>

BTDT said:

Big M - I wouldn't be bragging just yet, even though I HATE the SEC.  How many times has Mizzou been on probation, or banned from post season? How many times have they been investigated? (See my point?) 

The best upset was Penn State. You could tell these guys just wanted it more than Michigan. That freshman quarterback is going to be something sooner rather than later.

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I'm a GA Alum and season ticket holder so needless to say I bleed red and black. With that said I congratulate Mizzou on their win in Athens. I think the turning point in the game was the fumble or #scoopnscore. Our guy wiffed on the block and the Mizzou guy made the play on Murray. If you look closely on that play the defender on our receiver had fell and our guy was 10 yds open for a sure TD. The game was closer than it looked. I take nothing away from Mizzou at all and think they played well and belong in the SEC but I sure wish we would've had all our guns for the game. We've had some major battles already this year and have played 4 ranked teams in 6 games, a pretty good senior laden N. Texas team, and in Neyland Stadium which is never easy so we've had a tough road not to mention the major injuries. Mizzou's road is going to be just as tough as ours the rest of the year. #GoDawgs

To me it is not even close what the best divsion is, SEC has 8 teams ranked in the top 25, The closest division to that is 4 teams (half amount of SEC) in the top 25, PAC 12 being one with 4 teams in top 25. But I do agree with Oregon, I think they are the team to beat this year and will win it all. But you take away Oregon, I don't think the PAC 12 is that tough.

I've been quietly lurking, but have to add my 2 cents.

I will agree with the majority that from top to bottom, the SEC is probably the toughest conference out there.

Here's where my opinion differs.  I think the distance between the top 3 or 4 teams in the SEC vs. the top 3 or 4 in the other conferences is quite minimal.

Since I'm a homer , I will use Nebraska as an example.  In each of the last 2 years, Nebraska has played a top tier SEC team in a bowl game.  Most that follow Nebraska football will concur that these are not the glory years for the Huskers.  We've stuggled immensely against good teams, while getting blown off the field a few times....

Last year, Nebraska plays Georgia (who was just seconds from playing in the national championship game...loaded with NFL talent).  Nebraska leads 24-23 at the half and is tied 31-31 at the start of the 4th.  Deep in Georgia territory driving to score a touchdown for the lead, Ameer fumbles, Georgia drives the other direction, scores, and game over.  Scores again for a 45-31 win.  Some will say Georgia had no reason to be up for this game...but if that fumble doesn't happen, an unranked Nebraska is right there at the end...against one of the elite SEC teams.  The main difference that I saw is that Georgia's depth wore them down.

Two years ago, Nebraska plays "the visored one" and South Carolina.  Again, one of the top SEC teams.  Nebraska leads 13-9 after 1.  South Carolina scores on a hail Mary to end the first 1/2 and takes a 16-13 lead.  3rd quarter is again a stalemate, but Nebraska's lack of depth again shows in the 4th and they give up 2 4th quarter touchdowns.  Final of 30-13. 

Maybe I'm seeing this wrong, but Nebraska was in both of these games until very close to the end...against some of the SEC's best.  With a couple less turnovers in each game, there might have been a different winner.

The parity level is so high in college football right now, that I don't see that extreme of a difference between the top few teams of each conference...just a difference in the SEC from top to bottom. 

Missouri has shined this year...I was one that thought it would be tough sledding for them in the SEC....been wrong so far.

I believe that it is very difficult to compare conferences as a whole, and say that one is clearly more dominant than another.  Conferences will inherently have different styles that are needed to compete on a weekly basis, but may not be very efficient when it comes to that one game that matters.  I see this in the Big 10 and the cold weather setting that many of these games are played in.  Many of these teams have a very efficient and potent passing attack, but in November when the wind is blowing 30 mph and the sleet or snow is pounding down it just won't work.

The SEC is a very athletic conference that will play most of their games in moderate or warm weather.  I believe this will help Mizzou in the next few weeks.  The Tigers will know how to play in that weather and may of their opponents may struggle.  The warm weather climate of the SEC lends itself to a wide open attack.

Many conferences withing the NCAA simply just beat each other up.  There is so much parity within the conference that anybody can (and does) beat anybody on any given Saturday.  Pac 12, Big 10, Big 12...and even the SEC (excluding Alabama without the 2012 A&M thrashing) are all conferences that we are seeing this happen.

My problem with labeling the SEC as the dominant conference is the presence of Alabama in that conference.  Alabama is a dominant team within that conference, but if you take that one team out I am not sure what would be left to substantiate the argument of conference superiority.

What puzzles me about the SEC being such a behemoth of a football conference is what Texas A&M has done in that conference.  Now go ahead and give me the Manziel argument...he is such a stud and they are riding on his coat tails.  I disagree...that team is more than JUST an amazing and fun to watch QB.

This is a team that was in the Big 12 in 2011, and the SEC in 2012.  In 2011, their QB (Ryan Tannehill) was no slouch, and actually threw for more touchdowns and yards than Manziel...which should be no shocker since he is handling the NFL and the Miami Dolphins just fine right now.  Manziel of course rushed for a lot more yards than Tannehill, BUT the remainder of the offense actually gave up rushing efficiency because of Manziel.  Manziel's teammates combined for about 135 rushing yards per game, while Tannehill and the 2011 rushing attack combined for about 175 yards per game (not including Tannehill's rushing production).  The defense allowed about the same number of total yards in each season, and time of possession was almost the same.  My point of this paragraph is simply that the 2011 and 2012 Texas A&M teams were very close to the same in terms of overall offensive and defensive makeup.

If the SEC is such a dominant conference, how does Texas A&M march into the new conference and boost it's total yardage output by almost 800 yards, and score 70 more points, while defensively staying exactly the same place they were in the Big 12?  Keep in mind, this is not a Texas A&M team that played for the National Title, this was a 2 loss team.  What part of this equation makes the SEC (as a conference) more dominant than the Big 12? 

And what about Missouri?  This Missouri team was a Middle of the Pack team in the Big 12, and now they knock off the #5 team in the country. 

I believe that it is IMPOSSIBLE to say any conference is more dominant than another, and have it be anything but an opinion based upon personal preference.

Well this week made standings clear as mud, Georgia lost again, S. Carolina lost, both of them two are upsets. Not listed as an upset now as Mizzou was ranked higher now but Mizzou kicked some gator tail with a Freshman QB. Next week with S. Carolina at Mizzou. Go Tigers 7-0!

Big M Show Cattle said:

Well this week made standings clear as mud, Georgia lost again, S. Carolina lost, both of them two are upsets. Not listed as an upset now as Mizzou was ranked higher now but Mizzou kicked some gator tail with a Freshman QB. Next week with S. Carolina at Mizzou. Go Tigers 7-0!

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And johnny football came up short on his last drive.

Gargan said:

Big M Show Cattle said:

Well this week made standings clear as mud, Georgia lost again, S. Carolina lost, both of them two are upsets. Not listed as an upset now as Mizzou was ranked higher now but Mizzou kicked some gator tail with a Freshman QB. Next week with S. Carolina at Mizzou. Go Tigers 7-0!

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And johnny football came up short on his last drive.

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Yes Gargan, that game was still going on when I posted, that is an upset also. That one surprised me the most, going to be interesting to see how the ranking are come Monday.