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Re: Weston Trademark 3rd "Fillet" sons
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2013, 02:16:09 PM »
Love this cow and her son....
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me too! She's the dam of Y lazy Y's Easy bull.
 How's that possible that you like him -- his girth and length are almost the same.  And at 85" length he would have to be considered extremely long sided by anyone's definition.

But I agree he is a really good looking bull -- even if he sires calves that are long bodied! <cowboy>

Who are you talking about? Surely you're not talking about Coalpit Creek Leader? He closer to being short coupled than long sided. He does have a pretty long hip though. 


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Re: Weston Trademark 3rd "Fillet" sons
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2013, 03:54:43 PM »
Love this cow and her son....
HHFS Impossible Dream

me too! She's the dam of Y lazy Y's Easy bull.
 How's that possible that you like him -- his girth and length are almost the same.  And at 85" length he would have to be considered extremely long sided by anyone's definition.

But I agree he is a really good looking bull -- even if he sires calves that are long bodied! <cowboy>

Who are you talking about? Surely you're not talking about Coalpit Creek Leader? He closer to being short coupled than long sided. He does have a pretty long hip though.  

That's the bull.  I've never seen him but according to Ralph's website, he's 85" down his top line.  If he's that long then yes he would be long spined in any breed.  And if you use the traditional measurement for length (point of shoulder to pin bone, from several of his pics he looks like he has plenty of lenght (although there's 1-2 where he looks short).  For me, the best expression of length is in the offspring and there are a couple of red heifers and a red bull/steer that look to be plenty long sided -- not excessive but certainly longer than average and for me proportioned correctly with the rest of their scale.
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Re: Weston Trademark 3rd "Fillet" sons
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2013, 04:09:40 PM »
Love this cow and her son....
HHFS Impossible Dream

me too! She's the dam of Y lazy Y's Easy bull.
 How's that possible that you like him -- his girth and length are almost the same.  And at 85" length he would have to be considered extremely long sided by anyone's definition.

But I agree he is a really good looking bull -- even if he sires calves that are long bodied! <cowboy>

Who are you talking about? Surely you're not talking about Coalpit Creek Leader? He closer to being short coupled than long sided. He does have a pretty long hip though.  

That's the bull.  I've never seen him but according to Ralph's website, he's 85" down his top line.  If he's that long then yes he would be long spined in any breed.  And if you use the traditional measurement for length (point of shoulder to pin bone, from several of his pics he looks like he has plenty of lenght (although there's 1-2 where he looks short).  For me, the best expression of length is in the offspring and there are a couple of red heifers and a red bull/steer that look to be plenty long sided -- not excessive but certainly longer than average and for me proportioned correctly with the rest of their scale.
Long spined doesn't necessarily equate to long sided.  He might be long spined if yhou measure all the way to the pins but his "side" stops way short of his pins.   The bull has an enourmous hip that takes up a good portion of his spine.  I just printed off a picture of him and busted out my architectural scale.  If length is measured from the pin bone to the point of the shoulder, the bulls hip-from hook back- is 1/3 of his length.  In terms of proportion that's very impressive IMO. 

So perhaps I'm wrong.  I've always used long spined and long sided interchangeably.  Easy is long spined but somewhat short coupled or sided.  If he were longer sided, chances are he wouldn't be so 'Easy.'

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Re: Weston Trademark 3rd "Fillet" sons
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2013, 04:23:52 PM »
  Don't disagree at all -- your definition and mine are different. Nothing wrong with that.  That's why it's always good to understand people's point of reference. It's why early on I tried to make the distinction of long spined instead of long sided.

Either way -- he's a really good bull.
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Re: Weston Trademark 3rd "Fillet" sons
« Reply #19 on: February 20, 2013, 04:29:26 PM »
An exceptional bull no doubt.

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Re: Weston Trademark 3rd "Fillet" sons
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2013, 07:12:31 PM »
Just wanted to let people know that videos are up on our website of the Weston Trademark 3rd sons and the Clipper King of USA.

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