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To the OP. The Shorthorn breed started and was perfected based on line breeding for 3 -4 generations and then outcross and then back to 3 or 4 line breds. Just read the history of the early breeders of Shorthorn.

DL, those photos bring back very bad days. Had too many of those born here. Almost drove me out of the Shorthorn business...

Roy Lovaas has some pretty good info and photos of Natvie stock. http://www.rlshorthorns.com/native_shorthorns.htm

I remember the threads about TH on showsteers DL. Of course I found those threads after experiencing several TH births on my small operation. Lost a lot of money and lost some good cattle due to TH. The more we know, the better informed breeding matings we can make. To cover something under the...

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Ok, I need Christmas money so reducing price. Asking $2500.  <rock>

Still have her. This is one of our best heifers ever. Come and see her and you will be impressed.

Another Photo.

Name: NHR Cumberland Duchess 1B Sire: Jake's Proud Jazz Dam: NHR Cumberland Duchess DOB: 5-8-2011 Registration #: *x4176335 Asking Price: $2500 Location: Rice, TX An exceptional heifer sired by Jake's Proud Jazz and out of NHR Cumberland Duchess that will show with the best. Excellent hair...

A very good judge. He judged the HOT Fair British Heifers back in 2006. He likes complete females that move freely.

thats what I got also...

Sudan/Haygrazer is our first choice.

Im interested. I reserve the name "Boar Hog Tits" because my fantasy team is usually just as worthless.

Glenn Rose, TX has an air conditioned arena. Heart of TX, Waco, TX Central TX Fair complex, Belton, TX Not for sure if the arena in Wichita Falls is air conditioned but the Charlois jr national was there a couple years ago

Full Control works great as a holding ratio, we use it.

1b 3b 3e 18a 20 and 21 my favorites

Just run CLR or Vinegar through it about once per week.

I dont have their ice box, I have the hurricane fogger mounted on a regular cooler, works real good.

Well I got lucky and found 44 round bales of this years bermuda, vetch, johnson grass mix for a very reasonable price here in Texas. 44 is all he had left but that will get me through the winter with what I already had.

Its real high here in Texas!