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Just up on the quebec border of ontario canada and About 25 miles from the is border

What's everyone's preference for over seeding your pastures with?for beef cows and calves and it's permanante pasture I have.

How come  you guys always try and take a shot at the angus, please don't compare  an angus bull to that German shepherd legged  bull. Always trying to say angus came from shorthorn etc etc,  every breed came from somewhere at some point.

But are they afraid to use a smaller framed animsl that has some style but still deep

Nice bull, very we'll balanced, deep sided, nice quarter, depth of chest, smooth through the shoulder and has a cool look to him.

I hear there are judging the angus show at the royal, my one seen them judge and know what kind of cattle they pic?

I would also do the  abstracting band, they do them on extra teats and the cows never miss a beat, the Barnes dethroned would be way more "heinous" check out what the downfalls of it are on this site http://www.dehorning.com/dehorning-methods/barnes-or-gouger-dehorning/

The anwender bulls are pretty neat do like the 106 heifer, the problem with the anwender heifers is that they show hard so I would suspect those heifers just were not just a hundred percent, I think they look like they are we'll feed and should make nice cows. Horshoe creek has some really nice...

What dose it say about your breed when a company such as genex dose not have a selection to choose from but carries polls, Piedmontese, and brahmas. I bet that dexter and Waygu will have more of a selection than the horns.

Probably a blessing, worth more all the way around

Admitting the breed is in trouble is the first step to recovery. The problem has nothing to do with black cattle and them pushing the shorthorns out of the commercial market, unlike the angus they do not have the product to offer, and that is due to the show oriented cattle, that have a ant...

There are some good shorthorns but there are a lot of bad shorthorns I have included some pics  the first 2 are of a steer and a bull I found online might even be off the renegade bull from JTM, the second 2 are of what I would call what the breed should strive for

So with all that said adding angus to shorthorn yes it improves them but adding shorthorn to angus doesn't do a thing for the angus and that's why these heifers are as nice as they are because the have angus in the to add more maternal, more rib shape and dimension and capacity and just that do...

That's basically all he has going for him is the calving ease, he looks tight hided, hard to see what his sheath looks like in the long grass, needs to be deeper sided, needs to be deeper in his fore rib, flat quartered etc. basically doesn't so anything for me not sure what all the hype is...

You guys are all missing the point, I never said there were no good shorthorns cause there are a few most of the western breeding is more powerful different bred of cattle, there is so much variation in the breed is what the problem is. Comercial producers want to see consistencey which the...

They will be fine just needs some time and strength in them.

Jm what do you not get I said I used to have horns, I said there were a few good ones there is no clear path, feedlots do not what the breed period. Your pretty confident in your breed post some mature pics of that bull you have been promoting, along with his dam

Now tha being said I think I have a pretty good idea when I used to have shorthorns and  than you haul them to market and they are at least 100 pounds lighter than the angus and the feedlot guys pay you 750 compared to angus selling for 1300 live weight

Thank you, that is wha iam basically trying to say, but the only people who won't recognize that is the people bashing the angus breed saying they go back to Holstein, and not realizing that THEY (for you xbar) shorthorns were a dual purpose breed. Shorthorns can make good show cattle but 90...

How come all these great breeds everyone mentions have angus in them? Like I said shorthorns were a dual purpose breed so you can't use that because shorthorns have tons of milking blood in them. If the shorthorns are such a great breed why so much inconsistency? They have so many different...