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I stand corrected.  Sorry in hijack your thread.

Nobody is saying that there is not an issue AJ.  But the numbers don't add up.  Gardiners have more carriers than any herd in the country, have only had .04 % of their herd have been still born.  I can't believe that they are just lucky.  My silly vet has seen these calves for 30 years.  How old...

I really have a hard time explaining myself.  I was apologizing to people who read this thread and to the person who started it if I offended them by being sarcastic.  I am not in any way apologizing for what I said. I am pretty sure that everyone knew excactly what the original poster was...

I am sorry if I come off as a jerk, but this is rediculous.  All cattle have issues.  All breeds have issues.  I am not saying that the angus breed is perfect, but to say the AAA is in charge of some great cover up is stupid.  I am not going to throw around accusations base on some research done...

It's ok steerboy hard to understand something that's a bunch of bogus crap.

Steer Boy are you part of the great Angus cover up?  Everyone knows that all angus ranches are filled with dwarf cattle with noses like an elephants trunk.  And anyone who has any 1680 blood has pastures full of dead calves.  (lol)

It's going to take alot more time to figure it out.  Don't trust the list of clean bulls.  My vet told me they don't even know what they are testing for.  Part of the people think it is a genetic defect that could lead to a birth defect occuring.  Nice to see the scare tactics out and about. ...

Good post

I think that Midland is still one of the biggest Test/sales in the western states.  There is also the Ubia test/sale which has over 150 bulls.  And Wbia which is a little smaller.  These sale concentrate on more of a complete animal than just weight gain. 

I am also confused by this post, but more confused why they got banned

Where is the smiley with the bird finger on it?

That's good stuff.  I will probably use that during TG dinner

I am probably not going to get a chance  to get on here tomorrow, so  I thought I would take a minute to wish everyone on Steerplanet a Happy Thanksgiving.  Thank you to everyone on here who has contributed to threads which have helped me and I  am sure others.  This is a great site.  There are...

what is her age and weight?

Thanks for the help.  When it got warmer in the spring and closer to the show date would you add barly to the mix.

Here is the problem that I have..  I live next to the Rockies in Utah.  It gets friggin cold.  Soon.  I need to come up with a feed and alot of the stuff listed in other threads are not available here.  There are difinate draw backs to being a Utard.  My son's calf doesn't show until August...

Does anyone know what the reserve was?  Somebody on BW said he was a Heat Wave.  Looks like the best herford I ever saw.

Holy crap, I thought I was alone in Utah  :o

Pretty dang nice calf.  Congrats to the winners.  I cannot find a fault with him, from a pic.  I guess the whiners will have to try harder.

I agree why say a bunch of crap after the show.  I guess nobody "reconized" this calf before the show.