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Thanks for the comments everyone.Kibler,at 10 months he is a low 5 frame score.His sire now 5 has maintained a 5 frame score and I would expect this calf to do the same.I would expect him to weigh 2200 at maturity in good breeding condition.

  Here are some updated pictures of the calf I started this thread with.He has gained an average of 3.05 lbs/day the last 90 days,3.42 the last 42.His dollar value breed rankings are top 15% for CEZ,55% for F,and top 10%for BMI.

I would like to see a picture of the 68th as well.This bull is very strongly linebred to King Collynie Jr.from top to bottom of his pedigree.I quit at 15 times and I don't have all the info available.There are many others in the pedigree that are bred similar to the Jr.Collynie Jr.was the result...

Good to have you back in the business TG.Looks like you have a good nucleus to work from.Just to clarify,your heifers are bred to Red Commander who is a full brother to Frontline.

The real testament to the value of the Rorvig cows was the fact that a small obscure herd with little or no promotion had such a big impact on the breed.So obscure that JIT our official historian doesn't even remember who bought them. :o Floyd Fredicksen of Montana purchased the herd but soon...

Oakview,I used to enjoy the old reports on the International and other stock shows as well and I wasn't even into showing.The writers back then captured the atmosphere, competition,and the animals well and made you feel like you had been there.A far cry from our breed journalism today...

I had to go to Chicago on Tuesday and while I was up there I stopped by the old Stockyards district and took some pictures.The first picture is of the old entrance gate to the yards.The animal head in the center of the arch is a likeness of a famous Shorthorn show steer from the 1870's owned and...

Creekland Lancer was probably the last Hurrah of the pony type in Polled Shorthorns.Some would call it the last insult to common sense.The Teegardens were using a C.L.influenced bull when I was there in 1974.He had good proportions but very very small.He might of worked in some grass fed...

Here is the most recent picture of Kaper 4508,Frontlines sire taken this fall at 6 1/2 yrs.I have also attached a picture of a 10 month old 4508 son we have here.He has gained 4.27 lbs/day the last 38 days.

Thanks Knabe,I like looking at cattle in the raw as well. Mark, the Haumont Influence is definitely strong in this calf, the other individuals that you mentioned I would say have a minimal influence.They are a minimum of 8-10 generations back and only appear once, R.D. is twice back...

Thanks Mark,thought you might appreciate him even if he didn't have any maine in him.Reg.# is 4207648.

Here is a March 31st Frontline out of a 7/8ths sister to Frontlines dam.

Those are some of the best pictures I have seen of the stockyards and the International.I went to some of the last shows in the 70's.Cigar smoke,seeing Dividend and Improver who were radically different at the time.The booing and cowboy hats thrown to the ground when Kingsley made Champagne...

I have always felt that pounds per frame score was a more valuable measurement than the actual weight of an animal.

You bring up some good points or questions XBAR on Jazzy and her genetic contributions to the type that JPJ is producing.At least everything that is being presented publicly sure looks the part.Kind of the same phenomenon as Rodeo Drive  who also had quite a diverse pedigree.If we had the...

Beebe,Most of my mature cow herd would have weighed in the 1300 to 1600lb range with a few on both sides of that range.There was some variation in genetic combinations, pieces of the puzzle you might say that would account for most of the variation.I have attached a picture of one that was ...

Jazzy the dam of JPJ is deceased.She weighed 1850lbs when we shipped her.I have a daughter pictured below by 4508 that will calve this spring to our Double Brute bull.Also have a couple embryo's in the tank of the same mating.I sent blood in about 3 weeks ago so I should have DS results back...

Two bulls pictured below from the late 1930's early 40's.One is a registered Polled Shorthorn and the other a registered Polled Milking Shorthorn.

Carl Johnsons Carona farm was located here in Illinois at Dekalb and was started in 1921.Like the Lynnwood herd it was heavily influenced by the Hultine Collynie herd.H.L.Straus's Cherry Hill herd was also deep in Hultine breeding but he brought in the horned Royal Leader 2nd bull from Wilson's...

This cow was a 5 frame at weaning and maturity.I never had a mature weight but would put her in that 1300-1400 weight range based on the weights I have of similar type cows.She had a 591 lb. adj.weaning weight and ratioed 109 in a contemporary group of 9 several of which were bigger framed than her.