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He makes nice cows and his sons are a little bit bigger framed than most cattle now days with good thickness.  They can definitely rattle the chute when they come through though.

If you want to make mama cows that work in a commercial setting stay away from northern improvement. They are showy but man they don’t like dry country that we have out here. Nice looking calf. Hope he has better docility than the net worth’s or whitlocks out here. You turn them out in some big...

My dad had lot 6 in that sale she was a daughter of the good bull excitement that came from joebntn on here. He said that the heifer damar farms had was pretty great but couldn’t remember where she went to.

I can’t speaker for the original poster but we are kinda going that way too. Maybe not 7+ frame but definitely bigger and longer than acreage. The people who feed our cattle want to hang as many pounds on a carcass as they can and these 5 frames bull that don’t have any length don’t get it done...

Here’s our Weston bull, Weston dingo a son of dynamo. This is him pictured as 2 year old as grand champion at the pacific international in Portland.

Anyone see the angus bull Hf Alcatraz? If so what were your thoughts?

White footed shorthorns and Herefords imo experience do not hold up. I would agree with you aj that shorthorns as a whole are better footed than red angus. I was at a red angus bull sale this spring the only good footed bulls were the sim composites.

A Red Bull that I always liked was boxer. But I don’t know if he sired very many class winners. Maybe somebody could chime in on that?

I would say for cattle to be commercially acceptable you better not have to do all that bs to get a live calf and cow. Mark imo if a actual cowman read your post and thinks that's what you have to do when you use shorthorn bulls on cows that are designed to meet commercial needs selling...

Wow xbar that is a monster for sure.

Alta cedar signature 119 will add thickness for sure but we had fertility problems with his daughters. With our experience I would stay away from him.

We like older bulls because of their increased size we don't have a lot of luck turning yearlings out with big groups of cows 200+/- in big pastures with a bunch of old bulls. I don't know about if the teeth losing has an effect but the bulls do come in thin. Always have chalked that up to the...

When I was a kid I always tried to talk dad into using suds I thought he was cool and would make me a cool steer. I really like the looks of boxer I would be interested in seeing a different picture of him and suds than the two that were always used for them.

Nice looking females!

Holy cow you guys this is like watching high school girls fight. Who the hell cares about your guys problems let's get back to talking about cattle instead of calling each other names.

If you looking for red meat then imperative is probably as good a choice as anything going today. Wises have some pretty good data on how his calves preform.

A bull we used lightly but in hindsight we should have used more was gb daybreak express. He was a fairly easy calving bull that would really put some ass in them. Not the round clubby ass but one when you got behind them they stood with lots of width and top. He left some nice cows that stayed...

Not bashing the bull and agrguing that he's a cow killer but you can't argue that genetically his calves will be on the heavier end of the bw spectrum. My dad is running 7 sonny grandsons that are bred similar to firestorm on predominately angus/Hereford commercial cows. There's 800 cows and the...

Holy cow he's cool! What's he weigh? How big do you foresee him getting?

I have never seen this pic of dividend but have seen a similar one.