1/2 Blood Simmi Bulls

[TWANG]

What is the demand for 1/2 blood simmi bulls? I have heard mixed opinions. We have one that we may leave a bull (link). What does everyone think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASQnvrHZDpM

 

[frostback]

If he were born here with all that colour he would be cut.

 

[ploughshare]

1/2 blood Sim-Angus is one thing, a 1/2 blood Sim - Heat Wave is another.

 

[CAB]

1/2 blood Sim-Angus is one thing, a 1/2 blood Sim - Heat Wave is another.

Like apples to oranges. Very good looking calf though. Don't know if he will sell as a bull with the HW on the bottom side or not. I personally like his color if he wouldn't throw anymore than he carries, I wouldn't mind that part of him. Have you tested him or know his TH status?

 

[Sammy]

with that color and those rear legs plus the breeding on the dam's side  cut him and sell him this fall as a 700+ pound feeder @ $1.40 or so a pound - nearly a $1000. feeder calf - save yourself the time of breaking and clipping and move on - no diamond there - as mentioned before there is demand for commercial 1/2 blood bulls but not that kind - just being straight with the opinion - with prices at an all-time high all marginal club-calves and bulls should be just marketed as feeders this year and not waste time fitting and marketing - time to cash in -

 

[husker1]

The picture doesn't come up for me, but I'll chime in. 

On our sale this year, our second high selling bull was all chromed up.  He was a Macho out of an Ohlde donor.  White on legs has always been a pet peeve of mine...this calf was in the cradle last spring with the knife being sharpened and I just couldn't do it.  He was too good of a calf, despite the less than desirable (for me!) color pattern.  He developed all summer and was a super calf. 

Debated about putting him on the sale...sale mgr. gave me the go-ahead.  He was certainly the right kind, just his color was representative of what we breed for.

Catalogs come out, and the first 4 calls...from California, Texas, Oklahoma and Iowa...are all on this bull...the bull that just dodged the knife!  Probably had a minimum of 30 guys ask about this bull!

As stated, he ended up being the second high seller.  I learned two valuable lessons here; my opinion on color is not shared by everyone,  and a good one will sell well, perhaps even if he's purple with polka dots!

If the calf is good, leave him intact and take a chance...

 

[cbcr]

I agree with husker1, if he is a really good calf, then he could be left as a bull.

Another thing to consider though, what kind of cattle are producers breeding to in your area?

With this calf being 1/2 Simmental and with Heatwave being a Maine Anjou cross and TH carrier.  You would definitely need to test him to make sure he is TH free.

 

[CCW]

Sim-Angus bulls are in high demand. 1/2 Sim bulls X clubby bulls aren't in our area.

Commercial breeders also want solid black bulls with a few taking white face bulls. Alot of white on the belly, any up on the body, white tails, white legs are all disliked by commercial bull buyers. Sale barn calf buyers want uniform calves and spotted bulls don't do that for you.

That being said people raising show calves love color and color tends to get a look in the ring from the judge. Your bull if he is a standout might could be used for a herd that sells clubby cattle as their cleanup bull.

I suspect husker's bull got alot of attention from clubby breeders looking for a replacement heifer maker. The bull was well bred and phenotypically superior to most bulls in the sale catalog. Only thing wrong with him was his extra color which is a turnoff to most seedstock and commercial bull buyers but not clubby buyers.

 

[husker1]

Sim-Angus bulls are in high demand. 1/2 Sim bulls X clubby bulls aren't in our area.

Commercial breeders also want solid black bulls with a few taking white face bulls. Alot of white on the belly, any up on the body, white tails, white legs are all disliked by commercial bull buyers. Sale barn calf buyers want uniform calves and spotted bulls don't do that for you.

That being said people raising show calves love color and color tends to get a look in the ring from the judge. Your bull if he is a standout might could be used for a herd that sells clubby cattle as their cleanup bull.

I suspect husker's bull got alot of attention from clubby breeders looking for a replacement heifer maker. The bull was well bred and phenotypically superior to most bulls in the sale catalog. Only thing wrong with him was his extra color which is a turnoff to most seedstock and commercial bull buyers but not clubby buyers.

CCW nailed it...for the most part.  I probably couldn't single him out as being phenotypically superior to most of the  bulls, though he probably fit it the top 25%...