Mark if you are ever in Northeast Oklahoma I would love to show you my cows. They are a mix of old Oklahoma show steer breeding with a little Canadian and now for the first time ever we are going to add some Trump for some look. Hopefully keep the body and soundness. // Hey Will-and certainly Redwine,and some of my old time buddies in OKIE-yea Im gonna want to do a trip and see you guys-my sister is on the faculty at OSU-medical school-so Ive got a place to start from -I dont want to get BARN BLIND-but theres a young bull I bred who at 3 years allready has approx.100 natural calves on the ground-they come easy-YOU KNOW IM A STICKLER on that-and hes a double-bred Cumberland-with some old time fullblood back there-and sired by Free For All-hes been worked to death in Texas,Iowa,and Iowa twice again-and hasnt had a break since he was a long yearling-the hiefers are way showy-especially out of extreme clubbies-he really is worth a try-and hes proven:you oughta try 5 straws or something-Ill e-mail old pics of him and just weaned calves if you PM me The pic below is when he was about 7,5 months off a cell phone out in the lot-Mark Mueller (DMCC)raised him and still thinks hes one of the better Shorthorns hed ever had-he did have a few.O0