Alpha mannosidosis - old defect returns

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Alpha-Mannosidosis FROM THE RAAA WEB SITE
Although, Alpha-Mannosidosis (MA) is one of the oldest known genetic defects to be identified in Angus and Angus-derived cattle, awareness of the defect has been very limited among cattle producers. The
knowledge of MA is largely due to the efforts of Angus Australia, as they met an MA outbreak head-on and have since essentially eradicated the defect from their population. That eradication process was
initiated in 1980 as the result of several Australian animals being diagnosed with MA. The development of a DNA test for MA in 1997 provided Angus Australia with an accurate tool for identification of carrier animals. Although Australia has the most experience with MA, it has been documented in other countries, including an American case in the late 1970s. In a preemptive move to prevent MA from
having a large impact on the American Red Angus population, the DNA test for MA is now available in the United States.

What is Alpha-Mannosidosis?
Alpha-Mannosidosis is an inherited and lethal lysosomal storage disease of Aberdeen Angus cattle. Affected calves are born alive with no physical deformities. Prior to reaching sexual maturity, affected
animals show severe, progressive neurological disease characterized by tremors of the head, loss of muscle coordination, and aggression when disturbed. The net effect is eventual death.

What is the inheritance pattern ofAlpha-Mannosidosis?
Identical to other genetic defects monitored by RAAA, the inheritance of MA is classified as a simple recessive. Thus, only animals possessing two copies of the MA mutation will exhibit the genetic defect.

Carrier animals (those animals possessing one copy of the MA mutation) will appear normal, but when mated to another carrier animal will produce a MA affected animal 25% of the time.

Has RAAA Board of Directors implemented policy for Alpha-Mannosidosis?
Yes, the RAAA Board recently accepted (with a unanimous vote) the Breed Improvement Committee’s recommendation to implement policy for Alpha-Mannosidosis. The policy is identical to RAAA’s policy
for Arthrogryposis Multiplex (AM) and Neuropathic Hydrocephalus (NH).

Beginning July 1, 2010:
i. Animals applying for registration whose pedigree contains an MA tested carrier within the first two generations (parents or grandparents) without an intervening MA tested free animal must
be tested by an RAAA approved facility to determine if the animal is a carrier, or free of MA.

Registration of such animals will be placed on hold until approved test results are received by RAAA.

ii. AI sires (sires with progeny applying for registration using RAAA mating code 1) and Embryo donor dams (dams with progeny applying for registration using RAAA mating code 3) whose pedigree contains an MA carrier without an intervening MA tested free animal must be tested
by an RAAA approved facility to determine if the animal is a carrier, or free of MA. In the event that DNA is unavailable on an AI sire/Embryo donor dam then progeny will be required to be
tested for MA as a requirement for registration.

iii. Animals confirmed to be carriers of MA are eligible for registration.

Which DNA labs are approved to perform Alpha-Mannosidosis testing?
Currently, the only lab approved by RAAA to perform the MA DNA test is AgriGenomics. Sample submission forms and shipping instructions are located on the RAAA website under Genetics/Genetic
Defects, or can be found at www.agrigenomicsinc.com

Note: AgriGenomics only accepts whole blood
and semen for testing. Additional labs are in the process of implementing the MA DNA test.

What tools will RAAA provide to assist members in managing Alpha-Mannosidosis?
Identical to other genetic defects in which an approved DNA test is available, RAAA provides several tools that assist members in making the most informed decisions. RAAA’s Genetic Defect Status Report
will include MA; therefore, providing members with a tool to evaluate their active animal’s exposure to each genetic defect. RAAA will maintain tested “Free” and “Carrier” lists which are available on the
RAAA website. Additionally, animals that have been tested for MA will be so noted by placing MAF or MAC following their registration number.


If you are using outcross RA genetics I would suggest you ask the breeder about the status of the bull
 

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Is it in BLACK angus or RED angus?  You mentioned Aberdeen Angus (black angus) and then mention RAAA which is red angus....
Me confused!!
 

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Quote from DL:
Beginning July 1, 2010:
i. Animals applying for registration whose pedigree contains an MA tested carrier within the first two generations (parents or grandparents) without an intervening MA tested free animal must
be tested by an RAAA approved facility to determine if the animal is a carrier, or free of MA.

Another not so smart policy. If nothing is ever tested how is one to find a "MA TESTED CARRIER WITHIN THE FIRST TWO GENERATIONS..."  Many, (most) will not test anything, so therefore nothing will be "tested carrier..."
Who makes up these things anyway? (retorical question)

 

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Sorry SH - this is from the RAAA web site - most of the tests have been run on RA but since it has been seen in blacks likely some of them will be tested to determine the frequency of the mutation in the population - remember that RA semen I got?????
 

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So what are the carrier pedigrees we should look out for?
You can do a search for - The Red Angus Association of America - at the main page you will find a genetic defect catagory, it lists all tested animals free or carriers. RW
 

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frostback said:
So what are the carrier pedigrees we should look out for?

Wow. One listed as a carrier. many many were listed as free.... seems like this is where the search ends. As the bull listed probably won't show up as "tested carrier for MA" in very many pedgrees. I will sleep much better tonight...
I did notice several canadian reds that were not tested.....
 

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Wow. One listed as a carrier. many many were listed as free.... seems like this is where the search ends. As the bull listed probably won't show up as "tested carrier for MA" in very many pedgrees. I will sleep much better tonight...
I did notice several canadian reds that were not tested.....

yeah I noticed that too - I wonder if that is an issue?
 

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DL said:
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Wow. One listed as a carrier. many many were listed as free.... seems like this is where the search ends. As the bull listed probably won't show up as "tested carrier for MA" in very many pedgrees. I will sleep much better tonight...
I did notice several canadian reds that were not tested.....

yeah I noticed that too - I wonder if that is an issue?
I know of some that are tested that are not listed - yet. RW
 

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Wow. One listed as a carrier. many many were listed as free.... seems like this is where the search ends. As the bull listed probably won't show up as "tested carrier for MA" in very many pedgrees....I will sleep much better tonight..I did notice several canadian reds that were not tested.....
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I meant that sarcastically of course....
 

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Only one bull is listed on the RAAA web site as a carrier of alpha mannosidosis - HUS ROYALGORGE A389M U063

Since his sire of  is clean by test he must have gotten it from his dam

I have a confirmed carrier of alpha mannosidosis sired by a Canadian calving ease RA bull  - my carrier heifer is a half-blood RA out of a Maine heifer -

The sire of my alpha mannosidosis carrier is not listed on the RAAA web site - either as a carrier or free - he has sired a carrier heifer, r - wonder why his status isn't listed anywhere?
 

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There have been some tests done very recently.Don't jump the gun before the tests are published
 

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ROAD WARRIOR said:
There have been some tests done very recently.Don't jump the gun before the tests are published

I am not jumping the gun - I had this heifer tested because her sire was a confirmed carrier - not listed but confirmed - it wasn't done recently (well I guess that depends on what recent is - Feb could be recent to some...)
 

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DL said:
ROAD WARRIOR said:
There have been some tests done very recently.Don't jump the gun before the tests are published

I am not jumping the gun - I had this heifer tested because her sire was a confirmed carrier - not listed but confirmed - it wasn't done recently (well I guess that depends on what recent is - Feb could be recent to some...)
I am not questioning that you have a dirty heifer or that her sire is dirty - but because of reasons that I cannot post here for legal reasons, it is not posted on the web site!
 

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cattle are like trying to find a mate.  everyone has a defect.  some are physical, some are mental.
 

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DL - If you are asking how many of mine I have to test - so far EVERY animal that I own is clean by pedigree at least 4 generations back of any of the so far discovered genetic defects. I did just buy a bull that is NOT clean by pedigree but he is tested clean. When the dust all settles there will be published results I'm sure, this is not all that different than when the OS deal started out.

Knabe I read somewhere that the average human has something like 17 genetic defects, I probably have more than my share.
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ROAD WARRIOR said:
DL - If you are asking how many of mine I have to test - so far EVERY animal that I own is clean by pedigree at least 4 generations back of any of the so far discovered genetic defects. I did just buy a bull that is NOT clean by pedigree but he is tested clean. When the dust all settles there will be published results I'm sure, this is not all that different than when the OS deal started out.

Knabe I read somewhere that the average human has something like 17 genetic defects, I probably have more than my share.
RW

Clean by pedigree? Does that translate to : NOT TESTED?  That is the fault I have with the policy.... if they are not TESTED and confirmed within 2 generations, then you do not have to legally test..... so, "clean by pedigree" actually means "not tested pedigree". True?
 

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Interpret it however you want to. ALL of my donor cows are TESTED or in the process of being TESTED. ALL of my herd sires are TESTED or in the process of being tested including the two that I just bought. I have such a tightly bred gene pool in my herd that IF there is a problem it will show up quickly. I have never been one to use several bulls trying to hit the "right now" market. I have also done a fair amount of line breeding which should turn up any problems pretty quickly as well. I just wish that they would get to the end of the finding a new genetic defect to test for craze so that we could test once and for all and be done with it. But I'm sure that will not happen as long as there is money to be made from the testing process.
 

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defects will keep coming.  there is no way around it.  the genome is not static.

folks, the genome is 2-3 billion base pairs.  the fact that there are so few defects is amazing.

think about this.  some frogs completely rearrange their genome every time they mate.  animals with lots of eggs and limited ability to gather diversity by movement have these mechanisms.

the thing that is completely apparent to me is that the more we find defects, the more we know WHERE to look when they crop up again instead of searching for the genes every time.

it's time to get over the concept of defect free anything.
 

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