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Doc

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I just got done looking at Aldens sale catalog & it looks like they are joining the retaining a flush in every female & cloning rights club! I still don't mind someone keeping rights to a flush on a  hfr, but I just can't get past keeping the cloning rights to every animal. There's some good looking hfrs in there , but they've lost me as a potential customer on the live animals. I've got a feeling they won't lose any sleep over that though. ;D
 

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Doc said:
I just got done looking at Aldens sale catalog & it looks like they are joining the retaining a flush in every female & cloning rights club! I still don't mind someone keeping rights to a flush on a  hfr, but I just can't get past keeping the cloning rights to every animal. There's some good looking hfrs in there , but they've lost me as a potential customer on the live animals. I've got a feeling they won't lose any sleep over that though. ;D

retain the right to keep your money.  or call them to get an exemption.  perhaps you can use card check to reveal your idendity to other bidders who didn't take the time to ask for an exemption.  if people don't call and ask for an exemption, they will have to wait for people to vote with their feet, which has a lag time usually ignored.
 

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retain the right to keep your money.  or call them to get an exemption.  perhaps you can use card check to reveal your idendity to other bidders who didn't take the time to ask for an exemption.  if people don't call and ask for an exemption, they will have to wait for people to vote with their feet, which has a lag time usually ignored.
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But if I use card check won't I be ostracized by the other bidders if my exemption is refused?
 

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klintdog said:
What do you mean  by 'card check'?

just a joke from another thread about unions, and yes doc.  i guess you could try and buy before the sale.  probably have card check for that too.
 

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Doc said:
I just got done looking at Aldens sale catalog & it looks like they are joining the retaining a flush in every female & cloning rights club! I still don't mind someone keeping rights to a flush on a  hfr, but I just can't get past keeping the cloning rights to every animal. There's some good looking hfrs in there , but they've lost me as a potential customer on the live animals. I've got a feeling they won't lose any sleep over that though. ;D
  Doc, I can see your concern but I don't believe if this oufit had a heifer I was very interested in that it would hold me back from purchasing.  Most sales that have a flush retained on a female, state at the buyers conveinence.  What if everytime they called to see if they could flush her, you told them "at this time it's not conveinent".  What are they going to do, grab a lawyer and force you to and take the chance at loosing a customer and getting a black eye.  I am not afraid to give up a flush if I can make it a win/win for both of us.  Maybe I can share in the flush and they can help market.

As far as Cloning,  if they choose to explore this option, it shouldn't set the female back in production at all.  What do they do just grab a notch out of the ear?  Sure someone will have another identical to yours. If they chose yours and are going to spend the high $$$ it takes to clone,  I look at it as one hell of a complinent.  You chose the right critter!  Someone comes to buy a calf of her's at your place,  and you can state that the outfit you purchased the dam from is cloning her, it sure makes your cow have some promotional value.

JMO

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RSC- You make some very good points.  I was wondering though..if they keep the right to the cell line, doesn't that mean that you would never be able to clone her? I'm not in any position to clone anything at the moment, but if I had the money to buy a calf that was good enough to be cloned, I would probably have the money to clone her when the time comes.  But maybe not, some calves that are awesome later on sell awful cheap..just some thoughts I guess.
 
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