We have several out of Detuor, nice calves with birthweights ave. around 85 . I only have a few but will use him again. One will stay a bull, he is out of a Strictly Buisness X Emulation Angus cow so he's double bred S. B. and so far looks good. I thought it was kind of funny how last year after Denver he was all the talk and now you don't here much. I think he is a good clean bull, but like I said I only have a few and they are out of some of my better cows.