any RED Maine bulls to buy semen on?

[5PCC]

Who has semen on RED Maine Anjou bulls that could produce show quality heifers and replacement mommas?

 

[knabe]

Who has semen on RED Maine Anjou bulls that could produce show quality heifers and replacement mommas?

in your mind, do the quality heifers lean to one phenotype and the replacement momma's lean to another?


from what i've seen, they are different. people continually try and make heifers that were supposed to be steers out of heat wave etc bulls into replacement momma's. in my mind, they are different.


can you provide a little more information?

 

[doc-sun]

Who has semen on RED Maine Anjou bulls that could produce show quality heifers and replacement mommas?

we have semen on red bulls

 

[BroncoFan]

Tiger Woods. That black Fast Freddie of Traush Farms has a recessive trait for throwing red because I have seen more red calves out of him than black. Last year, we kept a red heifer out of FF and a Slick 50XYardley Commanche cow.

 

[oakview]

I had good luck with DJ Data Bank.  I would imagine there'd be semen out there somewhere.  I'd use him again if I had some.  A friend of mine liked DJ Emperior, too.

 

[Mark H]

Aroud a decade ago it was easy to find red purebred Maine bulls of not bad quality at stud.  I just don't see them around anymore.  I would try and call Manitou Maines up ad see if they have any solid red exportable semen in the tank they can sell you.  Using a fullbloof bull is also an option.  something else to consider: use a dark red charolais like Circle Cee Fired Up 104Y.  See his picure at Thomas ranch: http://www.thomasranchcattle.com/sires.html 

 

[knabe]

I think manitou's retained a share in the yukon bull.

 

[Telos]

Just Rite 501M was a Hartman bred red bull that was a known producer. He was a purebred and probably got used on a bunch of Shorthorns. There is some semen on him as well. Hartman may have semen or perhaps the other owners. You can find them by using a pedigree search on AMAA.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

The former SP member-"outspoken", "the Truth"-and other incarnations had what looked like a really good red maine as of 2 years agother than some roll pins to hooks-the bull is owned by Arden _Prehiem-in Missouri-who is anything but outspoken,but has some very good cattle-he consigns alot to the Missouri and Arkansas Shorthorn sales-if you google them-you can get his infoS his brother Garris-had some of the best Shorthornxfullblood cattle in the country-including Cedar Curve Farah-National Champion, Cedar Curve Colleen-way famous doner by MR Big Sky, and a host of others. O0

 

[DakotaCow]

Who has semen on RED Maine Anjou bulls that could produce show quality heifers and replacement mommas?

we have semen on red bulls

Im a little confused, how can fullbloods be registered 3/4 shorthorn also? I am not great at math but I cant quite wrap my head around those fractions. If you have a glass that is 100% full of water how can it also be 75% full of oil?

 

[OH Breeder]

Who has semen on RED Maine Anjou bulls that could produce show quality heifers and replacement mommas?

we have semen on red bulls

Im a little confused, how can fullbloods be registered 3/4 shorthorn also? I am not great at math but I cant quite wrap my head around those fractions. If you have a glass that is 100% full of water how can it also be 75% full of oil?

Do not know the exact date but they allowed "red" maines in to the herd book as 3/4 shorthorns some years back. Beacuse the Maines are made up of shorthorn blood. If you had a purebred "red" maine you could get entry. Now I went round and round with ASA when i said there was some white on a cow. WHY I DO NOT KNOW? I do not know how they came up with percentages either. That rule is changing next year according to percentages.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

As far as the Association goes on the "red" maines-like the Red Rewards and Hartmans Countess who all are daughters and grandsons of DMCC LTD EDITION (Just Rite Is a Son):it depends upon who owned them.They still are a much needed improvement and even some of the coveted Sullivan deals are now becoming available to the teeming masses and peasants of the livestock world-LOL O0

 

[RyanChandler]

Who has semen on RED Maine Anjou bulls that could produce show quality heifers and replacement mommas?

we have semen on red bulls

I sure like that Imperial bull - phenotypically he's real similar to my Vanguard bull.

 

[knabe]

Who has semen on RED Maine Anjou bulls that could produce show quality heifers and replacement mommas?

we have semen on red bulls

Im a little confused, how can fullbloods be registered 3/4 shorthorn also? I am not great at math but I cant quite wrap my head around those fractions. If you have a glass that is 100% full of water Ohow can it also be 75% full of oil?

An emulsifier?

 

[knabe]

I sure like that Imperial bull - phenotypically he's real similar to my Vanguard bull.

The imperial bull is a very interestingly bred bull. There is absolutely no semen on his sire. He is one of my preferred matings.  I wish some of you shorthorn breeders would use him.

 

[5PCC]

Sorry...internet is down at home and my phone has been misplaced.

Knabe- You are right about show heifers and replacements not necessarily having the same phenotype. I would choose a replacement over a show heifer every time.

Regarding Shorthorns...I kind of thought that the original Maine Anjou breed consisted of red and white cattle, and it wasn't until they were crossbred with Angus that black cattle started coming into the breed. Please correct me if I am wrong.

I showed a Power Plant daughter in the late 1980's that was Reserve Maine at the Iowa State Fair. She was solid red and did not have extra Shorthorn in her breeding (other than that which was used to make the Maine Anjou breed to begin with).

 

[RyanChandler]

I sure like that Imperial bull - phenotypically he's real similar to my Vanguard bull.

The imperial bull is a very interestingly bred bull. There is absolutely no semen on his sire. He is one of my preferred matings.  I wish some of you shorthorn breeders would use him.

If I've already got the same or better in a purebred package, why?

 

[RyanChandler]

Regarding Shorthorns...I kind of thought that the original Maine Anjou breed consisted of red and white cattle, and it wasn't until they were crossbred with Angus that black cattle started coming into the breed. Please correct me if I am wrong.

That is correct.


Power plant is the paternal grandsire of the bull in my avatars maternal grandam.

 

[OH Breeder]

Sorry...internet is down at home and my phone has been misplaced.

Knabe- You are right about show heifers and replacements not necessarily having the same phenotype. I would choose a replacement over a show heifer every time.

Regarding Shorthorns...I kind of thought that the original Maine Anjou breed consisted of red and white cattle, and it wasn't until they were crossbred with Angus that black cattle started coming into the breed. Please correct me if I am wrong.

I showed a Power Plant daughter in the late 1980's that was Reserve Maine at the Iowa State Fair. She was solid red and did not have extra Shorthorn in her breeding (other than that which was used to make the Maine Anjou breed to begin with).

that is what I thought. But for some reason they did not want to alllow entry with the cow having white on her in addition to red. Makes zero sense to me.

 

[knabe]

Power plant is the paternal grandsire of the bull in my avatars maternal grandam.

Shaver Nelson in there as well. So he's sort of a crossbred bull.

Reason would be for more bulls like him to be available.