Being a jerk

[iowabeef]

The thing I dont get.  Why do we see so many of these nagging little dramatic posts on here lately.  Do people really not have anything better to do?  I mean I feel like I am in Jr High all over again here.  Steerplanet is a great forum to share information, get input, sell stuff, meet folks in the industry, learn, etc.  But all of a sudden its like the schoolyard rumor mill, I mean there have been a lot of posts like this lately.  "Oooh, did you see what Matt Lautner put on his blog?" "Matt Lautner dissed me on his blog, even though he didnt say my name he used part of what I said somewhere else to promote his bull and I am mad!" "Did you hear that Matt and Phil are dont like each other, I mean they have seperate business so that must mean they hate each other right?" "Did you hear that so and so's bull has every testable disease we know of?" "Did you see that Raymond Gonnet posted something negative about Lautner on his blog?" 
What good do any of these posts do any one?  All they do is stir more drama, and in a lot of cases the people posting didnt have all of their facts together to begin with.  But if you are all dumbfounded as to why Raymond and Matt are suddenly not best friends.  1)Raymond is YOUNG and looking for his break in the industry. 2) At the time that he promoted Lautners bulls on his blog, Raymond wasnt working for anyone, he was simply trying to be a semen dealer, and possibly trying to become the Matt Lautner of Canada at the same time. But he was independantly employed trying to sell semen, so of course he sang the praises of every good bull out there that he had semen on regardless of who owned it. 3) Now he works for Trausch, one of the bigger names in club calf bulls, so of course Raymond is no longer going to sing the praises of Lautner and his Bulls publicly, his job requires him to sing the praises of others.  And in that job along with singing the praises of Trauschs bulls, he also has to get you to quit looking at Lautners, which means he has to negate the bulls and Lautner in some way.  Are we really surprised that this leadds to Raymond and Matt not being busom buddies???
I mean yes, I agree I think Raymond is being a little immature for posting it on his blog, but he is still very young, so you have to expect rookie moves like that at times.  I think Raymond has potential, he is just still young. And I think Matt is a big enought boy to deal with it.  I mean Matt was extremely young trying to make his break at one point also, and I guarantee you he is no angel.  But come on no matter how immature you thought the blog post was.  Did any of you think it made you any more mature to go and start a rumor mill about it somewhere else.  The mature thing to do would have been to call Gonnet up, ask for his side of the story or background on why it was done, and then express your concern over it.

AMEN!!!!!!!!!  Best post in a long time....it is time to remember we are all adults (supposedly) talking about how to advance an industry.

 

[twistedhshowstock]

I don't understand why people would say stupid things like this that is open for everyone to see. Raymond and Lautner might be competition but you can still go about things a different way. It's never good to burn your bridges b.c you never know when you need to cross them again.

I don't see how this topic is a rumor mill...this guy clearly posted these things on his blog. It looks really unprofessional what he said and it could potentially hurt Trausch and this guy's reputation. If lautner did or said something that bothered this guy, doesn't mean he has to act unprofessional about it and post it on his blog. Just because they are competition doesn't mean he has to try and make lautner look bad, it isn't his job to do that.

People can post what ever they want to on the Big Show...If you don't like what's in that topic you don't have to read it or comment on it. On a public forum ignoring the nagging little dramatic post is probably your best bet.

I am not gonna argue, your opinion is your opinion.  And I am not saying that the original post was rumor mill, it was fact, they copied Gonnets blog post.  But it turned into it after that.  People out there acting like Lautner has never done anything like this, sorry but they would be mistaken, maybe not the exact same thing, but he has sank this low in his career before also.  What I was saying is everyone came running over here to steer planet to add their 2 cents  in on how immature and how big of a jerk Gonnet was for posting that on his blog, and I am not saying it wasnt.  But they are acting like the maturity and morals police, when in reality what they did was no more mature.  Running over here and yelling "Oh girl, did you hear what he had said that one time over there about so and so." Is the same as those annoying girls in highschool that nobody liked that couldnt find anything better to do than to sit in their little group in the corner and talk about what everyone else is doing.  The way I see it is this, anyone concerned with Gonnet and his behavior probably follows his blog , probably saw it for themselves, and can make their own jedgement on it.  In my opinion there was absolutely no need in someone running to a completely different forum and starting a topic about it. In my opinion its no more mature than what Gonnet did to begin with. And I referred it to the highschool rumor  mill because its just like that, let someone have even the smallest argument in a highschool, hell let somebody trip and fall in a highschool, in a matter of seconds absolutely everyone in the school will know because everybody has done told everybody, regardless of if it concerns them or not.  And thats what I got out of this, how on earth does Gonnet not answering Lautners calls concern or affect any of the rest of us?  I agree he probably shouldnt have posted it on his blog, but how on earth does the fact that he did concern or affect us? It doesnt affect the quality of their bulls, it doesnt affect the quality of their service, so then why does everyone need to be made known about it and your opinion about it?

And for the other poster, you are absolutely correct.  Matt and I are about the same age, which only makes us 6 or 7 yrs older that Raymond.  But trust me, that is a 6 or 7 yr period where a lot of growing up happens.

 

[knabe]

hence my posts on humor.

i guess not everyone was impressed with the spray length.