Black Calving Ease Bull For Sale

[TJ]

We are offering this 20 month old purebred Black Lowline Angus bull in our Private Treaty Bid Off Sale March 28.  He's pretty cool fronted & has some pretty decent thickness & hair.  Actual birth weight - 53 lbs.  So he would be ideal for a calving ease bull on open heifers.  Offspring could be registered as percentage Lowline.  He was raised on grass his whole life & only recently began eating some soy bean hulls, so what you see is exactly what you get.  No pampering.  He was clipped & washed 5-6 days ago, but he was not brushed or blown out for the pictures.   PM for more info.  Located in west KY... within 3 hours of Louisville, Terre Haute, St Louis & Nashville.  Not the greatest pics... I plan to take more.   

 

[justme]

LOL I cann't resist I know I'm bad...but has Jill bid on him yet?

 

[Jill]

Saving this one for farwest!

 

[TJ]

Farwest will like that bull... he's a frame 1!     But, no need for farwest to have all the fun, there are plenty to go around, like this fella... His dam is also pictured as a baby.  He's 3/4 Lowline X 1/4 Tarentaise.  He's even a frame score bigger & wider/thicker... this one has a lower BW too... 46 lbs.   

 

[TJ]

LOL I cann't resist I know I'm bad...but has Jill bid on him yet?

justme... If you start feeling left out, here is one that you can bid on too.     ;D

19 months in the picture, so he's still growing... 3/4 Lowline X 1/4 Angus... BW 68 lbs. 

 

[farwest]

Well here goes,  uh no.    I'll check back in this afternoon on this one when it's five o'clock somewhere.  P.S.  TJ, them tarentaise are just bad cattle, are they not.

 

[TJ]

Well here goes,  uh no.    I'll check back in this afternoon on this one when it's five o'clock somewhere.  P.S.  TJ, them tarentaise are just bad cattle, are they not.

Good enough that three 50% Tarentaise steers won their class at the KY State Fair 3 years in a row.  Good enough that a purebred Tarentaise heifer won Grand Champion AOB at the KY State Fair.  Good enough that a purebred Tarentaise heifer was 2nd in her class at the NAILE, after being 1st the whole class, until the judge walked to the mic & switched the top pair.  Say what you want about KY competition, but the NAILE is pretty tough & 2nd in class to the Reserve Champion, that you almost beat, isn't exactly "bad".   

I'll grant that some aren't so hot.  But, we've had awfully good success with them...  2nd highest gaining steer at the Great Western Beef Expo...  Highest Carcass value at the Great Western Beef Expo...  The only Prime, Yield grade 2 carcass at the Great Western Beef Expo... top 10 pen for feed efficiency.... 100% choice with no yield grades over 3.00.  One of our Tarentaise bulls sired a calf that gained over 3 lbs. per day in Kit Pharo's forage test.   I've had calves that weighed 70% of their dam's weight at weaning.  Again, I don't think that they are so bad. 

You know it's one thing to point out a flaw or a few flaws RE an animal or breed on the Big Show, but it's a whole different ball of wax to jump on the classifieds & say that something is "just bad".  I was just joking around in response to some others who started joking around, but I somehow get the feeling that you are not joking at all.  Even one who was joking around admitted... "I'm bad".  Thankfully, I am glad that it was me that you posted that type of nonsense about & not somebody else with something else.  I don't care what you think & it doesn't bother me.  After all, you have to answer for your own actions, not me.  It's like somebody on this board once told me, they absolutely detest Simmentals, but they don't run them down every chance they get.  And this is the first thread on the classified that I have ever seen where somebody was "bashing".  Again, this is the classifieds, not the big board.   

What is so bad about this?           

 

[farwest]

Well you would kind of have to admit TJ i was baited in to this.  I'm gonna tell this exactly how it looks to me.  I see some definite muscle definition in your lowlines, some hair, some depth, moderation and easy fleshing ability of course.  All the bs aside i can see merit in them especially for more acreage type people wanting to run more animals, more efficiency out of their grass.  As you've said before i'll be silenced when one wins a major as far as their showring potential.  But, the pics you've shown of the part tarentaise cattle i just don't have to favorable opinions of.  They seem extremely flat in the quarter, no spring of rib, absolutely no hair, fine boned.  It looks like the jersey comes out heavily in them.  No offense but i just don't see any merit in them except for milking ability.  I don't know who's monster that is on that cow you have pictured, but whatever that calves age to be efficient as you always talk of that calf should have been weaned two months ago.  I hope he's cut, he's gonna breed his mother.  Again, i'm not meaning to bash the tarentaise breed in general, but the pics you've shown me compared to your lowlines just don't do it.  Especially on steer planet.

 

[farwest]

Apologize for posting twice in a row, are their rules against that.  To clarify, i wasn't bashing your animals you have for sale, i just don't see any merit in the tarentaise breed when it comes to show potential, and i guess posting on here we kind of get show potential stuck in our head.  And yes i'm sure if we looked up what you say about some part tarentaise winning some show i'm sure it's true.  Research long enough i can find a part longhorn.  We can talk facts til the sun goes down..   I would never bash anyone's personal cattle on here, have i bashed Doc holiday, no,have i bashed the breed yes.  It's hard not to when you've had it shoved at your for month's or half the threads on here turn in to lowlines.   and i know the answer to that.  Just  don't open them.... Gotcha.

 

[farwest]

Hope their ain't rules against posting 3 times in a row,  Again TJ i apologize for turning classified into a debate, my bad as you said i should have said, I won't post again on this thread as i know you like to have the last paragraph and i am gonna reward yo with that.

 

[farwest]

One more thing TJ,  Your three bulls you have pictured do look very nice, Their is no doubt they extreme compliment to the lowline breed and you should be commended for raising animals this nice and i apologize for not mentioning it earlier.  Myself haveing a problem with the merits of the tarentaise breed for show cattle has nothing to do with the fine job you've done of raising these bulls. Do you have more similar to these for sale.

 

[TJ]

It's really not a big deal.  Honestly, you did get "sorta" baited, although I was just playing along with the others, & I figured you might want to play along too.      I'll even agree that the Tarentaise breed as a whole isn't going to dominate the show circuit anytime soon.  For one thing, they typically don't have much hair.  And another thing, they typically don't have much bone, which helps increase their dressing percentage, but it doesn't help in the ring.  But, Tarentaise X Angus did win Grand Champ or Res. Champ Pen of Commercial heifers, 3 years in a row at the NWSS.  A lot of Tarentaise, I don't like, & I don't even think that ours are probably as good as they used to be, due to not line breeding enough & using outside genetics that just weren't as good (different type... taller & not as wide).  Again, it's not an overly big deal to me, but somebody else might get pretty worked up & that's what I was trying to point out.  As far as I am concerened, after your 4 post reply, we are still cool...      

 

[Jill]

Shame on you farwest, you know that tj is the only one allowed to answer his own post with his own post, I think he's rubbing off on you!

 

[farwest]

My apologies again TJ.  Again those three you have pictured look really nice, look sale ready.  Alot of beef in a moderate package.

 

[farwest]

And Jill, I'm wating for an apology for baiting me.  What do yo guys expect, bait the pot stirrer like that.  you would have been dissapointed had i said nothing. (lol)

 

[TJ]

Shame on you farwest, you know that tj is the only one allowed to answer his own post with his own post, I think he's rubbing off on you!

FYI, I have never answered my own post, at least not that I am aware of. 


farwest... no need to apologize, but I do appreciate the compliment.  Thanks!