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kfacres

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Just curious to see everyone's opinions of recips...  I hope this works, can't figure out a way to have two polls on one post...  I'm thinking of raising a bunch of heifers to sell as recips... I can't figure out when would be the best time to sell them...  At weaning so the producer can develp them, ready to breed, calve them first and then sell then and worry about calving trouble etc...  or just try to sell them whenever???

Also would be curious to see what recips are worth!

thanks for any input...
 

Bulldaddy

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Good recips are hard to come by.  That is why I use my own.  I have found one calf raiser operation that does a good job.  Cost is $950 for a weaned calf but this guy does a great job and weanning weights are always good.
 

Jill

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I know the ET center we use has recips availible for purchase from them, it used to be 1200 for the cow, they put the embryo in and guarantee the pregnant recip.  I wouldn't even consider using a heifer as a recip-1. they have no track record, they may have no milk and having never had a calf you wouldn't know that 2- most of the embryo's we put in are clubby bred or larger birthweight calves, I don't bat an eye putting them in proven cows, but I sure wouldn't take that chance with putting a high dollar calf into a heifer. 
 

DL

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A wise man once commented when we were discussing recips - "Why would you put a diamond in a garbage can?"

I put eggs in my own good cows. I'm with Jill I would never consider using a heifer as a recip
 

justintime

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My ET center uses exceptional high quality recips. We are paying $1500 for recips when they are 90 days pregnant, but they keep them free until their calves are weaned in the fall. They contract females from several top commercial herds, that are 4-6 years old. The embryos are implanted and they are maintained there until fall when the calves are weaned. The ones I got last fall arrived here 6 weeks before they calved, and they were in excellent condition.

I have found that a rule of thumb is the better the recip.. the better the ET calf. Sometimes there are exceptions but I have found it doesn't usually pay to skimp on the recips you buy. If you decide to sell them at a later date, they are usually easier to sell and for more money than if they were just ordinary cows. I usually use my own cows for most of my recips, but have been buying some in the past few years. When we started to get serious about ET, I purchased a set of 45 Maine/Angus heifer calves from a reputation ranch.We maintained them until they had all had their second calves. Then I did when through a selection process and I cut 20 off the bottom and sold them.  I kept the best 25 and used them for recips. They were good enough females that if they did not hold the embryo, they were good enough to produce some show steers and heifers. Many of the steers and heifers we sold in our internet club calf sales came from these females... which were also our recip base herd.
 

kanshow

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We use our own out of our commercial herd.  We pick out the right age & healthy ones that will work for the synch cycle, are good milkers, and have the best dispostions.  They stay in the herd and after the embryo is in, they are exposed to a bull so they won't be open regardless.

 

jbw

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I use cows that are in the prime of their life, and cows that ALWAYS breed easy.  I did buy some cows this year, I am going to use some of them. They are big Angus, Angus cross cows that are easy keepers. 

Put eggs in on my farm early and kick bulls out on them so they breed up.
 

kanshow

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I'll throw this out there..  if you are buying a recip cow, would you rather have a cow with no calf at side to begin with?    I ask because we've got a couple nice young commercial simmi cows that have lost their calves due to weather related problems.  They are easy to work with and have weaned big calves in the past.  In the past, they have cycled right back & calved in a really good interval.    We hate to send them to the salebarn but that is where they will go as we just don't keep cows without calves.  My question really is, should I try to sell these cows as recips? 
 
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