Carney Man, King Meyer or Patton?

[okcc]

Of these bulls which do you like the best? I have several angus cows that need added style, muscle, bone, and hair. My main goal is to get replacement heifers but a show quality heifer would be nice. I like all of these bulls, and am pretty sure they will work very well with the type of cattle i have.I just cant make up my mind, can you help? Thanks.

 

[okcc]

For those of you that arent familiar with Patton heres a pic. He is an Irish Whiskey son out of a Chill Factor cow.

 

[CJC]

Never heard of Patton. King Meyer no calve reports; still to early in the game to know, Carney Man has all ready proven his self.

 

[BCCC]

Carney man wont add any bone. I like Patton, whats his PHA status??

 

[okcc]

Patton is PHAF. He is owned by Griswold Cattle Company(OK) and they had several nice heifers out of him that sold well in the recent exposure sale. I had the Luxury of viewing this bull in person and i couldn't find a hole in him. He is very maternal, sound,a cleaner and smoother fronted version of his father and a very complete young bull, however he did seem to give up some muscle. Just wanted other opinions. Right now I'm leaning to carneyman.

 

[vet tech]

In my honest opinion I dont think you can go wrong with any of them! But King Meyer's pedigree is solid GOLD!

 

[tadpole]

Carney Man needs to be bred to small cows other wise they tend to get kinda big.

 

[pg34]

We have a handful of Carney Man replacement heifers that are real nice and have great potential. I've also seen Patton in person. He's quite impressive, but with our limited number of cows its in our best interest to stick with something proven. I'd go with Carney Man. Haven't been dissappointed yet...

 

[chambero]

Patton is PHAF. He is owned by Griswold Cattle Company(OK) and they had several nice heifers out of him that sold well in the recent exposure sale. I had the Luxury of viewing this bull in person and i couldn't find a hole in him. He is very maternal, sound,a cleaner and smoother fronted version of his father and a very complete young bull, however he did seem to give up some muscle. Just wanted other opinions. Right now I'm leaning to carneyman.

I looked Patton over pretty hard in his pen where he lives right next to Steel Force.  I loved the Patton bull.  And then we went and looked at his young bulls out front - some of whom probably just went to Denver.  Chopper was running around in there with them.  My pick of the black bulls in that pen was sired by Patton.  We had already bought semen for the fall or I would have picked some up on Patton.  I'll try him next fall.

 

[vc]

Off the subject but PG34 and Chambero's avatar's look like sisters.

 

[chambero]

My avatar is a half-blood Charolais cow sired by a bull called Troy out of a black cow (Magic grandaughter).  She didn't stick to AI last year, so her calf this year (her 3rd) is out of a Hannibal son we use for cleanup.  It's a pretty nice November steer.  Last year she had a red heifer calf out of Golden Child that was decent, but a little fine boned and nothing particularly special.  We rebred her natural to our Hannibal son again trying to get her moved back up on calving to hopefully be ready to AI or flush next fall.

 

[pg34]

my avatar is a cow I call "Silver Tuna."  She is also a half-blood charolais sired by Friction.  She was bought from Kris Black's Cream of the Crop sale this past June, bred by Ryan Went. Her first calf was a huge Total Solution bull calf.  It was a really hard pull and ended up losing it.  She entered our donor program this fall. Cant wait to see her Heat Wave calves next fall!

 

[Teacher]

I have seen Patton. and used him on my angus cows. Nice bull heifers are really nice.  Look foward to my cows calves this year!

 

[furinsilex]

Like what i have seen from the patton bull,
King Meyers pedigree is a masterpiece  but
Carney Man is proven......

If it were me it would depend on the number of cows i had to breed, if there were abunch i would use some of each,................ if i had to pick one prolly go with King Meyer even though he is unproven

 

[CAB]

  I guess my question with using an unproven Meyer son is, after all these years we're still looking for that great replacement for the old great Meyer 734 bull and we can't agree on which bull it is. To me Carney Man is the one of these 3 B4 we can't get him anymore either. He combines 2 great bloodlines, Witch Doctor x Meyer and is prooven. For me no brainer. JMO. Brent

 

[Jill]

Agree with CAB, go with the proven bull, no contest. 

 

[okcc]

Thanks for all your opinions and insight!! I have decided to go with Carney Man. Thanks guys.

 

[furinsilex]

good decison

 

[TMJ Show Cattle]

Only thing I have to say is this:    Ask one of the great producers which bull he would use. If Carneyman wasn't the real deal, Dean Kephardt wouldn't have owned and used him this long.

 

[red]

Mamma's Boy is also a good choice.

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