aj
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Bloodlines.........colors........technology.........numbers.
aj said:The Shorthorn sale in Denver sells few live animals......all frozen embryos. DNA identification of lethal genetic defects........industry wide. I think that the identification of genetic defects were hastened by social media discussion. The Milkers were used followed up by the Maine Anjou........black color is now accepted in the Shorthorn breed.
According to vol. 13 2017 Beef Shorthorn Journal from the U.K., pg. 13, double muscling is undesirable in both males and females!woodyc said:in the UK the beef shorthorns have a few with double muscling coming into the breed
Duncraggan said:According to vol. 13 2017 Beef Shorthorn Journal from the U.K., pg. 13, double muscling is undesirable in both males and females!woodyc said:in the UK the beef shorthorns have a few with double muscling coming into the breed
It lies to the Society to enforce the rules, genetic testing?
I wonder if their, U.K., scrapping of genetic/purebred percentages won't be their downfall? I think breeders worldwide want to know that!
knabe said:aj said:The Shorthorn sale in Denver sells few live animals......all frozen embryos. DNA identification of lethal genetic defects........industry wide. I think that the identification of genetic defects were hastened by social media discussion. The Milkers were used followed up by the Maine Anjou........black color is now accepted in the Shorthorn breed.
I think you may have had a couple for sale at the Denver show. Why did you stop.
Has a black won a heifer or a bull class yet?
Doesn't make sense that they can be sold as registered purebreds when they don't meet the breed minimum standards/guidelines!woodyc said:a lot of it is a pride thing breeders wouldnt accept what they have is less than 100% pure so they scraped the percentage on the pedigreesDuncraggan said:According to vol. 13 2017 Beef Shorthorn Journal from the U.K., pg. 13, double muscling is undesirable in both males and females!woodyc said:in the UK the beef shorthorns have a few with double muscling coming into the breed
It lies to the Society to enforce the rules, genetic testing?
I wonder if their, U.K., scrapping of genetic/purebred percentages won't be their downfall? I think breeders worldwide want to know that!
it says double muscling its undesirable but they are selling well
Actually, they have made a change in the rules/regulations in Section 3 Subsection B paragraph 1 to remove the 50% limitation on black cattle. Black cattle are still ineligible for purebred status, but they will be recorded with the correct shorthorn blood %.Olson Family Shorthorns said:knabe said:aj said:The Shorthorn sale in Denver sells few live animals......all frozen embryos. DNA identification of lethal genetic defects........industry wide. I think that the identification of genetic defects were hastened by social media discussion. The Milkers were used followed up by the Maine Anjou........black color is now accepted in the Shorthorn breed.
I think you may have had a couple for sale at the Denver show. Why did you stop.
Has a black won a heifer or a bull class yet?
No, because you can only register them at 50%. He doesn't know what he's talking about. As per usual.
shortybreeder said:Actually, they have made a change in the rules/regulations in Section 3 Subsection B paragraph 1 to remove the 50% limitation on black cattle. Black cattle are still ineligible for purebred status, but they will be recorded with the correct shorthorn blood %.Olson Family Shorthorns said:knabe said:aj said:The Shorthorn sale in Denver sells few live animals......all frozen embryos. DNA identification of lethal genetic defects........industry wide. I think that the identification of genetic defects were hastened by social media discussion. The Milkers were used followed up by the Maine Anjou........black color is now accepted in the Shorthorn breed.
I think you may have had a couple for sale at the Denver show. Why did you stop.
Has a black won a heifer or a bull class yet?
No, because you can only register them at 50%. He doesn't know what he's talking about. As per usual.
aj said:Loving has been selling the hell out of black bulls.GO FIGURE-the other side of the coin is that at least 90% of the black cattle in this country are descended from Shorthorns anyway-STARTING WITH ANGUS I would like to see some of those Loving and Jungels x bred black and blue bulls used on a good Hereford based cowherd onetimeO0