Charolais cane code question

[olsun]

I have 4 or 5 ampules  ( yes ampules ) of old charolais semen, It is ABS semen. and has a cane code of 8616, Would it be Ali Baba Bramard. or possibly Sam 54 ? Anyone have any ideas?

 

[OH Breeder]

When I found some old ABS semen, I went to there website and emailed the secretary at ABS. They were really good about getting back to me on the cane codes. Its worth a shot. Just send them an email.