Color gurus ?

[shortdawg]

Ok - a Heatwave/Hereford bull colored like a Hereford bred to a red neck roan shorthorn cow will yield what color possibilities ?

 

[sue]

Light roan with a brockle roan face . 

 

[frostback]

Colour wise you have a 50/50 red and roan. But when you through in the spots and face of the Hereford you could get a spotted roan or a spotted red and the white face is a good possibility. Kinda depends if the short carriers the spotting gene and if they have white on the face how much of a chance for that.

 

[shortdawg]

That would be cool - a Chi/Maine/Angus/Shorthorn/Hereford cross with probably something else in there too. I'm picturing an Indian Outlaw colored calf ?????????

 

[frostback]

We can all hope cant we. 

 

[shortdawg]

Thanks ya'll !

 

[advocate]

I saw one pure herf on a pure shorty cow looked just like a herf but way hairier and wicked necked

 

[shortdawg]

With a 5 way (at least) cross, who knows what it will end up looking like ? I think the chances that it will class hereford are slim ? Maybe Frostback could tell us the % on that.

 

[mark tenenbaum]

I want to see a lght roan hereford-shorthorn on a real good Angus O0

 

[shortdawg]

Indian Outlaw on an Angus ?

 

[mark tenenbaum]

Indian Outlaw on an Angus ? YUP-hes a cool looking deal-and I always wanted to see one with the 3 British breeds (along with the rest CHI etc etc) O0

 

[HAB]

I grew up with Polled Herefords.  Later on we started using the old traditional Simmental for crosses., using black Galloway on those females.  I used a 1/2 Simm 1/2 Galloway bull (Black Blaze face), on my baldy Hereford X Galloway.  I had some of the best hereford marked females that were 1/4 hereford, 1/4 Simm. and 1/2 Galloway.  That was 20 years ago though 

 

[GoWyo]

Eventually if you cross them up enough they will just look like the ancient aurochs they started out as.

 

[frostback]

With a 5 way (at least) cross, who knows what it will end up looking like ? I think the chances that it will class hereford are slim ? Maybe Frostback could tell us the % on that.

It really does not matter how many breeds are involved. The "COLOUR" of a cow is only two genes. One from the dam and one from the sire. But you can get marking genes from both or neither also. Those are much harder to predict. Hereford white faces are dominant. When a hereford is bred to a angus you get a hetro black calf with a white face. Other breeds carrier the face white also. Lots of breeds carry spotting genes too. Leg, belly and body are all separate genes. Some carry all some just one and etc. So to predict markings is one call I cannot do with the punnett square I use for the colour.  Also with the shorthorn roan or co-dominate white gene you cannot predict what kind of roan you are going to get. Some sires will throw a pattern or kind more than some but to truly predict a type is not possible. The red, light , dark , red necked, purple, tequila are all just adjectives to describe the same thing which is a roan.

 

[shortdawg]

You are awesome at this deal for sure. A blaze faced roan is what I think ????