Costs of certain vet charges???

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husker1

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I'm curious what vets are charging around the country for certain fees...our charges have dramatically increased and want to see if we are just in line with the rest now, after an old vet retired. 

I'd like to know costs of health papers for out of state shipping.  Simply a healthy paper with a visual appraisal; no testing of any type.

Also, what is it costing in your area for Trich. tests?

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Trip to the farm $65, papers were $25 and the trich test was $210. Most Trich test are send out and take a minimum of 5 days for turn around in our area.
 

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$25 for health papers. Wanna say it is $50 for trich test.  All bulls sold at the sale barn are tested I can't imagine anyone paying $200
 

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$25 for health papers. Wanna say it is $50 for trich test.  All bulls sold at the sale barn are tested I can't imagine anyone paying $200

He asked what the charges were in our "area". I just quoted what we were quoted for our bull from our vet.
 

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$10 health papers, but have not had them done in a year so we will see next month!
A complete BSE with Trich is $95 out here.
 

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OH Breeder said:
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$25 for health papers. Wanna say it is $50 for trich test.  All bulls sold at the sale barn are tested I can't imagine anyone paying $200

He asked what the charges were in our "area". I just quoted what we were quoted for our bull from our vet.

Oh I believe you, just wild that a vet would think it was worth charging that.
 

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OH Breeder said:
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$25 for health papers. Wanna say it is $50 for trich test.  All bulls sold at the sale barn are tested I can't imagine anyone paying $200

He asked what the charges were in our "area". I just quoted what we were quoted for our bull from our vet.

Oh I believe you, just wild that a vet would think it was worth charging that.

I said no and called Ohio State instead. Like you that is crazy. Ohio State wasn't super cheap either ($110), but they said all the trich test are sent to Iowa or the Ohio Board of Agricluture. At the stockyards bulls are not trich tested either for breeding use and are assumed cull bulls.
 

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Trip to farm - $30
Health papers - $15
Trich - $30
OB after hours in their facility - $70

Another local vet:
Trip to farm - $55
Health papers - $30
Trich - $60
OB after hours in their facility - $100 after hours, $30 Exam, $50 facility charge, $75 simple/easy pull

And by far the most educated, best vet is the "cheap one". 

 

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Thanks for the put...

Just for information, I got charged $37.50 for a health paper the other day...which was hard to swallow.

Trich tests $75 this year.
 

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Here we use one vet clinic to do our herd health program.  We use them for everything and follow their protocol, and they do not charge us for health papers.  A trich test is $90.  At the sale barns in this area all bulls are sold as killer bulls and if you buy one as a herd bull the buyer has to pay for the trich test.
 

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Times must be getting hard for vets. Until this year we have never paid for health papers on anything. Not show cattle, sale cattle or racehorses going anywhere. In January we had an ag teacher stop by after NWSS and pickup two steers we sold into OK. Went to get health papers for them and the vet charged me $30 a piece for them. The thing that really made me mad was he didn't even look at them and to top it off his wife wrote the papers and signed his name.
 

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New vet is paying off the hefty student loan that he/she is now indebted to.  Really can't blame them, college tuition has gotten out of whack.  We got a new dentist and the same thing happened, he also had to buy the latest equipment.
 

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bim1986 said:
New vet is paying off the hefty student loan that he/she is now indebted to.  Really can't blame them, college tuition has gotten out of whack.  We got a new dentist and the same thing happened, he also had to buy the latest equipment.

I think the latter has more to do with it than the prior. 
 

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I don't see how this younger generation of veterinarians are gonna make it... average indebtedness, just associated with veterinary school, is running around $170-$180K; have seen stories of some that have taken out loans in the $250-$300K range.  And, some have student debt attached to undergraduate studies, as well. 
Can't imagine how they'll ever pay that off - and have any sort of a decent lifestyle; they'd better marry well...
Hosted an NCSU vet student for an externship a couple of weeks back - he's borrowing $40K/year for the 4 years he's in veterinary school.

Wife(also a DVM, now 'retired) had $20K in loans when we graduated vet school, 30 years ago; I was debt-free(until the next day when we married).  Seems paltry, compared to what the kids are borrowing these days - but tuition has increased by almost 15X since I graduated.
Don't believe I'd do it, today; I don't encourage aspiring students who think they want to be veterinarians, but I have stopped actively trying to discourage them - just try to make them aware of the financial realities.
 

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Shame on us for expecting them to do things for free.  When it comes to labor, they should be charging at least $150-$200 per hour to cover overhead.  Think about what your plumber/mechanic/welder charges.
 

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It's less than 25 grand a year including books and supplies to go to Texas A&M. Where are some folks coming up with $250-300,000?
 

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Vet school tuition and fees are much more than resident undergrad.  I could see it getting to $200k counting living expenses.
 

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It's less than 25 grand a year including books and supplies to go to Texas A&M.  Where are some folks coming up with $250-300,000?

That quote was for the vet school.  You'll incur living expenses regardless of what you do- why you always see room and board quoted along with the cost of going to school who knows
 

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I find the room and board are just part of living and shouldn't be considered in cost a poor point.

For most in Undergrad it is fairly easy to keep your head above water considering room and board.  Graduate school especially vet school is a different story.  While yes you have free time, it is easy to be in class from 8-2 for most of the week, counting labs you pry stay till 5 two or three times a week.  So now you have tighter hours and you won't be able to work mornings.  You end up in a pinch trying to find a job that has flexibility for those hours. 

I was lucky and did self employed work to get around the issue, but taking the loan out for tuition still accounts for 9 semesters of high priced tuition.  We paid for 9 semesters at our school because your 4th year you go from May to May.
 

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Not every veterinary college is as 'affordable' as TAMU - Tufts, for instance is close to $42K/yr for tuition alone. If you're a non-resident student, it's significantly higher, even at some of the less costly colleges, and recently some of the CVMs have been increasing class size, with larger numbers of slots dedicated to those 'out-of-state' students, who pay more, just to generate operating funds. 
Some of the private and off-shore schools are ungodly costly.

I often think, "Somebody should have been discussing this with these students; sure, they want to be a veterinarian...but to incur $300K in debt to do so... it just doesn't make good financial sense."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/24/business/high-debt-and-falling-demand-trap-new-veterinarians.html?_r=0

 
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