Doc Holliday daughters...

[TJ]

My "good" camera has been down for the count, so I haven't been posting many pictures this year.  However, I figure at least some on this board are curious about my Lowlines & I needed some new pictures, so I bought a new camera.   

Below is a picture of 2 Doc Holliday daughters.  It's not a professional photo, but it will give you a good idea about what I am raising.  The heifer that is nursing her dam, is not quite 5 months old & she is a fullblood.  The heifer standing off to her right might be the best heifer that I raised this year.  She's a 3/4 Lowline X 1/4 Tarentaise & sired by Doc Holliday.  She's wide based, but very feminine & pretty fronted.  She also has a high tail set, as does the fullblood heifer, which is an almost unheard of trait in the Lowline breed.  I've been told several times that high tail sets mean bigger rumps & I believe it.  I sold the 3/4 blood heifer to someone in southeastern Indiana & they plan to show her.  I am keeping the fullblood for myself...    

The 2nd pic is a 3/4 blood Doc Holliday heifer X 1/4 Tarentaise.

Picture #3, is a fullblood Doc Holliday heifer calf.

I've got more Doc Holliday calves that are very similar to these 2 & I may post more pics in this thread when I get some time.

TJ   

 

[TJ]

Here is another Doc Holliday daughter.  She's also a 3/4 blood Lowline X 1/4 Tarentaise & she's also sold & going to southeastern Indiana.   She's not quite as showy as the other 3/4, but she is not bad & I think she will compete pretty well at the Lowline shows.  Regardless, she will make a nice productive cow for her new owners.  She's also plenty heavy for a 5 month old heifer, out of a 1/2 blood Lowline 1st calf heifer, who hasn't had any creep feed!   

2nd picture is the same heifer, different angle. 

 

[TJ]

And here are a couple more 4-5 month old Doc Holliday calves, walking beside a 1st calf heifer that is a 1/2 blood Lowline X 1/2 Tarentaise.  Efficiency without creep feed.

 

[linnettejane]

wow!  these calves havent been creep fed?  awesome!  <cowboy>

 

[knabe]

i like the fullblood red tagged heifer labeled as fullblood1 as well as that 1st calf 1/2 and 1/2 heifer

 

[Bawndoh]

These calves are the epitomy of "BEEF".  Congrats...they look awesome.  All "beef" calves should look like this.  The industry is doing something wrong!?!

 

[dori36]

Very, very nice, TJ!  I agree with you on the tailset.  I have long believed that tail set up high is evidence of plenty of room to hang lots of round!  Not to mention that when fitting, you don't have to "fake" the great topline! Yup, these are prime examples of what Lowline genetics can do for the other breeds when crossed as well as what they should look like as fullbloods!  Congrats!

 

[TJ]

wow!  these calves havent been creep fed?  awesome!   <cowboy>

Yes, no creep.  But in fairness, our grass is in pretty good shape right now.  Also, we feed a mineral with yeast in it... I don't know if it helps, but it seems like it does.  "Easy keeping" is a trait that I really like & these cattle have that. 

Thanks!

 

 

[TJ]

i like the fullblood red tagged heifer labeled as fullblood1 as well as that 1st calf 1/2 and 1/2 heifer

Thanks, Knabe... I think that 1/2 heifer is pretty good.  I am considering showing her. 

 

[TJ]

These calves are the epitomy of "BEEF".  Congrats...they look awesome.  All "beef" calves should look like this.  The industry is doing something wrong!?!

Thanks! I really think that the 1/2 Lowlines are what a lot of commercial people are looking for & they just don't know it yet. 

 

[TJ]

Very, very nice, TJ!  I agree with you on the tailset.  I have long believed that tail set up high is evidence of plenty of room to hang lots of round!  Not to mention that when fitting, you don't have to "fake" the great topline! Yup, these are prime examples of what Lowline genetics can do for the other breeds when crossed as well as what they should look like as fullbloods!   Congrats!

Thanks, Dori!  I remember you were one of the ones who mentioned liking a higher tail set.  I like them for the exact same reasons.  Yeah, a good Lowline bull can do more in a crossbreeding program than just supply calving ease.  Fleshing ability, docile nature, added width & depth, can achieve 450-650 lb. weaning weights (depending upon the dam), produce quality meat, and the calves can do it without grain... those are the other major selling points, IMHO.   

 

[JCC]

TJ
What is the average weight on the 1/2 bloods once they are mature? I have seen your bull previously and thought about using him on our Angus heifers.
Thanks

 

[TJ]

TJ
What is the average weight on the 1/2 bloods once they are mature? I have seen your bull previously and thought about using him on our Angus heifers.
Thanks

It depends upon how big the cow is & how big the Lowline bull is.  For example, the 1/2 blood cow that is pictured below was over 1,350 lbs. & she was somewhere around 48 inches tall.  You can't tell it from the picture, but she was really wide.  However, her dam is a 1,800-1,900 lb. Angus cow & her sire is a 45 inch tall, 1,400 lb. Lowline bull named DCB Hank.  She was raised by Cindy Jackson, who is a former Angus breeder & who also co-owns Doc Holliday.  If you want to see what Doc will do on Angus females, I'll see if I can get Cindy to take some pictures of her percentage Doc calves.  She's got some really nice looking 3/4 & purebred Doc Holliday calves that were bred up from an Angus base.     

To answer your question, most of the halfblood Lowline females that I've seen have been in the 1,000 - 1,250 lb. range & will stand about 3-4 inches shorter than their dams, typically around 47-49 inches tall.  But, again, it all depends upon the size of the female & size the Lowline bull.  On the bigger end, Doc Holliday stands around 48.5 inches tall & weighed 1465 lbs. after breeding 20 females at Cross Creek last fall.  On the small side, are bulls like Quartermaster, who are only around 40 inches tall & many of those bulls may not weigh 1,000 lbs.  But, on 1,800-1,900 lb. cows, even Quartemaster can sire 1,000 lb. females. 

   

 

[linnettejane]

very nice looking cow!  <cowboy>

 

[JCC]

TJ
What is the average weight on the 1/2 bloods once they are mature? I have seen your bull previously and thought about using him on our Angus heifers.
Thanks

It depends upon how big the cow is & how big the Lowline bull is.  For example, the 1/2 blood cow that is pictured below was over 1,350 lbs. & she was somewhere around 48 inches tall.  You can't tell it from the picture, but she was really wide.  However, her dam is a 1,800-1,900 lb. Angus cow & her sire is a 45 inch tall, 1,400 lb. Lowline bull named DCB Hank.  She was raised by Cindy Jackson, who is a former Angus breeder & who also co-owns Doc Holliday.  If you want to see what Doc will do on Angus females, I'll see if I can get Cindy to take some pictures of her percentage Doc calves.  She's got some really nice looking 3/4 & purebred Doc Holliday calves that were bred up from an Angus base.     

To answer your question, most of the halfblood Lowline females that I've seen have been in the 1,000 - 1,250 lb. range & will stand about 3-4 inches shorter than their dams, typically around 47-49 inches tall.  But, again, it all depends upon the size of the female & size the Lowline bull.   On the bigger end, Doc Holliday stands around 48.5 inches tall & weighed 1465 lbs. after breeding 20 females at Cross Creek last fall.   On the small side, are bulls like Quartermaster, who are only around 40 inches tall & many of those bulls may not weigh 1,000 lbs.  But, on 1,800-1,900 lb. cows, even Quartemaster can sire 1,000 lb. females.   

     

What about birthweight and calving ease? What have your experiences been with average birthweights and calving ease when used in a crossbred breeding situation?

 

[shortyjock89]

I know for a fact that TJ has never pulled a Lowline-sired calf.  The average half blood Lowline born in the US weighs 59 lbs.

 

[dori36]

..TJ said: " On the small side, are bulls like Quartermaster, who are only around 40 inches tall & many of those bulls may not weigh 1,000 lbs.  But, on 1,800-1,900 lb. cows, even Quartemaster can sire 1,000 lb. females. "

.....and he did.  This cow, a halfblood by  Quartermaster out of an 1800  lb. Reg. Angus cow, probably weighed 1000 - 1100 when mature.  She's coming 2 in the show pic and carrying her first calf; she's nursing her 4th in the second pic, and her 5th in the 3rd pic.  BTW, no creep feed here, either, and NO grain for the cows either when pregnant nor when nursing.  The calves , 3/4 bloods, are by ABF Fitz who both TJ and I have commented reminds us of his Doc Holiday or vice versa!  Gotta love those Lowline genetics.  Regarding calving ease or pulling, the challenge to people used to "regular" cows is to not let the Lowline cows get too fat.  That can cause calving and fertilily problems the same as in any cows.  It becomes a bit of an art to keep them "slim and trim"!



   

 

[linnettejane]

very nice dori! <cowboy>

 

[farmboy]

funny, my dad and I were going to get some feed and he was inquiring about getting some lowlines

 

[Show Heifer]

Not to rain on everyones parade but: In MY area small framed, fat calves off of grass will bring a solid 20 cents less than a framey "green" calves will bring a premium.

I used a smaller framed angus bull several years ago, (with no creep) and took some really nice "fat" (not really) calves to the sale barn and got NAILED BIG TIME for them being to short and fat.

I guess that is the danger of "I sell pounds, and the buyer wants to buy gain potential"...

So, a word of caution......