Head strong calf

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BCbeef

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Hey guys new comer here,

I am raising a steer to show at our local fairs/shows starting in April.  I am having some trouble with him though, he is very head strong and i don't know how to fix that.  I tie him with his head up high everyday for anywhere from 15 minutes to 1 hour and I try to walk him several times a week.

Any tips would be appreciated.

Thanks
 

vc

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Besides just tying him up and trying to walk him are you grooming him daily, rinsing and blowing out. All these daily task help them get over them selves.
By stubborn do you mean he just wont lead, or will he not set up, stand still and things like that.
Most of them get better the more hands on you are with them, if he is just stubborn, keep trying and do not let him win. The smarter ones figure out that if they cooperate, you will leave them be sooner and they give in.
 

CAB

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Some will disagree with this info, but we have had in the past stubborn, smart, headstrong, whatever calves and sometimes a time tied to a tractor, donkey or the like will work. We had a heifer this year that was all of the above, and I tied her to a tractor once for a lead for a short 30 minutes and after that she has been good to go. I don't mean to tie her up in a mean spirited way. You have to be smart about it and use common sense. We have had calves in the past that just won't work on a tractor. They will just pull down and drag if you don't quit on one like that, you could IMO hurt one, but most will conform quickly. The deal with our heifer this year was she would be mule stubborn then all of a sudden take off down and away,(smartest heifer that I have ever broke), she'd set you up for it. I usually start leading one in a smaller pen, counter clockwise around so that if they do break down and away I can run them into the fence quickly so that there is nowhere to go. This heifer after 3 rounds around the pen and giving me the impression that she was getting the hang of it took me up to the fence then gave herself a couple steps back quickly moved forward, under down and away & was on the lamb again. Next day tractor for a 30 minute walk & ever since she has been fine. She wasn't a wild one. I would call her a very smart one and got away too many times early on in the process. Hope this helps and remember some just won't work on a tractor. We took an old JD rotary hoe and use the frame to lead 5 calves at a time to walk them. It sometimes works best to have a buddy calf besides the one that you are really wanting to concentrate on. Good luck!!
 

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Smart ones always seem to test you don't they, not mean, not scarred, they just find ways to get to you. Will lead right to the stall but forget how to lead into the wash rack. Once they figure out how to get untied it is a continuous test you find a way to keep the halter on they find a new way to get it off.

When they are just stubborn I would agree with you the tractor works, they do not fight it they just figure out they can't stop it or get away from it and start leading.
It is when you are dealing with fear, I think time is better than the tractor or donkey.

Back in the day when we had horses the smart ones always took the longest to break and train, but turned into the best horses by the end, it is like you have to prove to them why before they would start doing what you want at each step, but once they got it was onto the next step. Never had to go back and start over.
 

SouthWest

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You have a neck strong calf.  Thats where they get their strength from.  Make that neck sore.  Let him drag the halter on for a couple of days.  Let him walf around stepping on the lead rope.  He will jerk himself around.    By day 3 his neck will be sore that he will not fight the halter.  Adjust daily so it doesn't slip down on his nose.  Keep close eye on him so he doesn't get hung up on anything. 
 

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