i have seen him many times in person and about all of his calves. he worked real well as a clean up bull for a couple years before the owners decided to try and promote him. i've seen him grow up and have always liked him. he is pretty complete and still powerful. definitely puts a good look in the calves i've seen. he hasn't been used a whole lot mostly just cleaning up but some of his calves were real good and they weren't even out of the better cows.