To me this would be the hardest thing in the world. Is there any guidance from the association? You can have such a wide variance of entries......from cattle all over the spectrum.......bred for different purposes. What few shows I have seen or shown in.......the judge usually leans toward the clubby cattle or away from them. I guess that you could mix and match placings. Just seems like say the"balancers" or Simmy appendix shows have more of a phenotypic goal.......color and everything.