JOMAN'S LEADER PLUS shorthorn

[kfacres]

Any experience with this bull?  Saw his picture in an old semen catalog, thought he looked pretty interesting-- especially valuable in today's day in age...  Sired by Len Ru Ta Leader, out of a Stinger/ Chi cow... Going to guess and say he's a PHA carrier though, looks to be THF.  Was owned by Mid Cont.

More info on him, from that catalog...

 

[simmyman67]

That's a cool catalog!

 

[kfacres]

did you see my other post?
http://www.steerplanet.com/bb/index.php?topic=35440.0

 

[CCW]

as stout and big shouldered as he looks in the photo, i don't think he would be easy calving as they were advertising him to be. Definitley looks like he would add alot of thickness to his calves.

 

[kfacres]

as stout and big shouldered as he looks in the photo, i don't think he would be easy calving as they were advertising him to be. Definitley looks like he would add alot of thickness to his calves.

isn't easy calving, unassisted, low birth weight, or calving ease included in every bull's promo?? Regardless of what they really are???  Especially clubbier type bred animals.?

 

[oakview]

I used Leader Plus several years ago and got a few calves.  The calves I had were smaller than average at birth and also lighter at weaning.  I did have a Leader Plus calf out of a 2 year old Double Stuff daughter that caused some problems.  The problem wasn't so much that the calf was too big, it was that the Double Stuff heifer was just too small.  70 pound calves can be too big for some females.  The other Leader Plus calves I had were out of daughters of GR CopTop Trampas 9333 and grandaughters of MTS Special Effect and all were in the 70-85 range.  The Leader Plus calves were generally long bodied and relatively fine boned.  They had more muscling down their top than any calves I had at that time.  One of the heifers I raised out of Leader Plus was the dam of Oakview 2 + 2 that sired the popular Little Cedar Mary heifer sold this fall and displayed in Louisville.  I would use Leader Plus if I needed more ribeye and lower quarter.  I thought the calves I had were a little shallow bodied.  I also didn't like the fact that his calves out of purebred Shorthorns came in as only 3/4 bloods since Leade Plus is registered as an 11/16. 

 

[kfacres]

to bring this back to the top..

would anyone have any PHA status on this bull?

 

[feeder duck]

He was bred by Dr Larry Horstman about ten miles from me. He was out of a very stout Stinger dam. He caused a big stir around here when he was born. He was born about the same time KA BA Rose T90 was born and Len Ru Ta Leader was the big deal. He was packed with mass in terms of his muscle shape. Plenty straight. Some what one gutted. he was moderate framed for the most part. I remember collecting him at Interglobe when I was there. Mortz family in Il had hime there. never seen any calves out of him. i just sold 6 units on him in a package deal.


Jeff

 

[OH Breeder]

From ASA Site.....he has not been tested for PHA apparently because it does not appear on his paper.

"To obtain any Shorthorn animal’s genetic defect status, simply use the “Search the Breed” tool found in the lower right-hand corner of the homepage. Type the animal’s registered name or registration number in the spaces provided and then click “Search.” If the animal has been tested and reported to the ASA, the genetic defect status will appear right after the animal’s registration number at the top of the “Animal Information” page. If nothing is listed, then the animal’s genetic defect status has not been reported to the ASA"

 

[mark tenenbaum]

Eskimo Joe is PHA-Leader Plus is a prime suspect being his grandfather-and out of a Stinger cow O0