Looked at the Duff site today......

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MYT Farms

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WHOA! That's all I can say. Moderate, easy keeping, respectable $EN combined with more than acceptable growth and moderate milk. Not to mention some powerhouse cattle. I think I have my Angus semen source pinned down for next year.
 

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cow energy value is the most meaningless EPDs.  It sounds good in theory, but it's based on is milking ability and cow size. Cows that don't milk, don't eat, no kidding.  Doesn't actually measure cow efficiency, which is hard to quantify.
 

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I think you have it mixed up.

$EN - Cow Energy Value (Angus), expressed in dollars
saved per cow per year, the EPD assesses differences in
cow energy requirements for daughters of sires. A larger
value is more favorable when comparing two animals
(more dollars saved on feed energy expenses). $EN savings
differences account for lactation energy requirements
and mature size of cows

It is more like myself, I tend to stay in good body condition on little to no feed.  That is how this is measured. 

A cow that can stay in better shape, breed, raise a calf on less feed is what I want!  Unless of course someone else would like to pay my feed bill.
 

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What I think is amazing, is whether it is duff's or OCC the cows all look consistently the same. Deep bodied easy fleshing moderate framed cattle. They look like common sense. Nothing extreme abou them. I enjoy just looking at the video's and catalogs to see such quality cattle. Truely are beautiful set.
 

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OH Breeder said:
What I think is amazing, is whether it is duff's or OCC the cows all look consistently the same. Deep bodied easy fleshing moderate framed cattle. They look like common sense. Nothing extreme abou them. I enjoy just looking at the video's and catalogs to see such quality cattle. Truely are beautiful set.

Deep bodied, easy fleshing, moderate framed cattle. From what I've seen that sums them up.
Uniformity as well, everybody has cows that they can pick out from 100 yards away or when they are coming down the alley without a tag but I prefer to not be able to do that because hopefully my cows all look exactly alike and these cattle will help you get to that point.
 

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Alscows said:
It is more like myself, I tend to stay in good body condition on little to no feed.  That is how this is measured. 

A cow that can stay in better shape, breed, raise a calf on less feed is what I want!  Unless of course someone else would like to pay my feed bill.

how do i know what you ate, the cow also?  personally, i'd like to know butterfat % on beef cows as well, so you could have a smaller udder with the same energy.

 

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That would be ok but smaller udder doesn't mean less feed to get there.  I would be happy with a heavy milker only if she uses less grass to get it, or breeds back 1st service & brings in a large calf.  If a mother cow can't be "efficient" on grass she probably won't(careful here) raise an "efficient" calf....Showring, bull,replacement, or feedlot.  Those things cross over breeds,types, management,etc.
 

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true, but for some maine's, udders are a problem, as i'm sure they are in any breed, more or less so.

so, how do you know what they eat?  and how do you know you could wean a calf based on your maintenance requirements, which might be different if you were a boy or girl, though probably related, since a bull needs some cover to survive the breeding season
 
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